Arch packages question

Debian has 10,000 (just a guess) packages or so. Now many of those would never do me any good, but that is a lot of software. Do I really lose anything with Arch/pacman?
Thanks.

Its surprisingly easy to build an arch package. If you can compile from scratch you can make a package. It takes about five minutes longer to build a package than to compile it from scratch the first time, but each time after that that you want to rebuild the package or update to a new version, it takes about constant time, so in the long run you save time. Plus if you put it in AUR you're saving other people time too! Its a great way to pay back the devs and community.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The … guidelines
Dusty

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Just some few Arch Linux questions

Hi, I am new to Arch Linux and am looking for some advice and answers.
Here are the questions:
1. Does the update command (I think its called pacman and it updates many things with one command in terminal) update the Arch Linux base, the DE that is installed, the apps that are installed and artwork on Arch Linux?
2. Is Arch Linux User friendly once installed (When I say user friendly, I mean something like Ubuntu)?
3. Does the drivers (Wireless card drivers, graphics card drivers, printer drivers and audio card drivers) come pre-installed once Arch Linux is installed like Ubuntu?
4. What is the stablility and speed of Arch Linux compared to Ubuntu?
That is all I need to know.
Cheers,
molom

molom wrote:Hi, I am new to Arch Linux and am looking for some advice and answers.
Here are the questions:
1. Does the update command (I think its called pacman and it updates many things with one command in terminal) update the Arch Linux base, the DE that is installed, the apps that are installed and artwork on Arch Linux?
pacman is the package manager for Arch. It will install single package, batches of packages, update the installed packages and several other things. Yes, one command 'pacman -Syu will update all the installed packages to the most recent available in the repositories. It will not update your artwork, ut everything else will be updated if you so desire.
molom wrote:2. Is Arch Linux User friendly once installed (When I say user friendly, I mean something like Ubuntu)?
Once you have installed the base systen, updated and then installed whatever desktop environment or window manager you want, whatever programs you want, etc., it will be as user friendly as you have made it.
molom wrote:3. Does the drivers (Wireless card drivers, graphics card drivers, printer drivers and audio card drivers) come pre-installed once Arch Linux is installed like Ubuntu?
As others have said, the install process does a fairly good job of detecting your hardware and installing the necessary modules, but it is up to you to install drivers for your nVidia / ATI video card if you want accelerated graphics. You'll have to install your printer (generally via cups, which you must also install). You'll have to install alsa and you may have to configure your sound.
molom wrote:4. What is the stablility and speed of Arch Linux compared to Ubuntu?
Arch is what you make it. You can have a rock solid stable system, or you can opt to be bleeding edge and risk the occasional package breaking.
molom wrote:So when you say 'pkgs', do you also mean the desktop environment as well. For example, I have E17 installed and I use the 'pacman -Syu' command, will it update the version of E17 on my PC to the current version of E17?
A package is a piece of software. E17 is a package, or perhaps a meta package made up of a bunch of packages. alsa is a package. gnome network-manager is a package. Anything that is installed on your system is managed and updated by pacman.
molom wrote:Is there something similar to synaptic in Arch Linux?
pacman is the Arch package manager. It does not need a gui front end, though there are a few third party front ends that have been written. I do not know if they are still active.
molom wrote:
I'm really eager into knowing about Arch Linux.
Cheers,
molom
Then I also suggest as other have, that you avail yourself of the wiki, especially the beginner's guide which answers several of the questions you've asked.
Arch Linux is what you make of it, but you have to do the making. Heck, that's 95% of the fun!

Users of Eclipse - Arch packages or self-maintained?

I've always used my own self-maintained Eclipse installation (in /home/LinuxProg) since I first started using Eclipse back in my Ubuntu days. Just today I was trying out eclim and had problems getting it working on that install, so I figured I would try out the Arch packages, and they 'just worked'.
I previously kept my Eclipse separate since it has its own updater and I would sometimes use it from Ubuntu, but I haven't done that in a year now so I figured there was no more advantage to using it the way I had before. So, a question to Eclipse users, how many of you DON'T use the Arch packages?

ngoonee wrote:
sigmund wrote:
I maintain separate Eclipse installations by a simple, free and smart app named Pulse from poweredbypulse.com.
The advantages of using Pulse are many because it automagically updates everything from the standard environment to every plug-in (small like svn or "big" like pdt,cdt, jdt with no issues), it lets you propagate in just a few minutes a complete set of profiles to many different workstations that will share every option you have chosen from one place, it is cross platform and you can trust Genuitec because they are true Eclipse contributors that will never spam you in any way.
It's so easy to run multiple Eclipse installations with no binaries duplicates that I have been never looking for distros packages for a couple of years.
I really think that Pulse should be a must for every Eclipse user who is not interested in becoming an expert of the Eclipse inner details, but just a satisfied and a proficient user of a fully customized/able environment.
While I appreciate your contribution and suggestion, I think the overall tone of your post sounds just like a marketing video. Seriously, 'you can trust X because Y'?
In any case, I may look into that once I'm done with my PhD. Thanks.
Yes, you are probably right, but I am not paid by them at all. They are just good enough at it that I am simply so happy that I wanted to share the experience and give my 2cents tip.
Edit: Of course, Genuitec would like you to download and buy commercially packed profiles for Java and other languages, but the community free profiles are just nice for my professional use and I have never received any spamming mail from them on the account I had created for that purpose and a year ago I switched my email account to the one I am currently using for all the open source stuff.
Edit: If you do not pay a sort of yearly subscription (I have never paid) they will not let you quickly search the database that contains what is available and I have sometimes missed a useful plugin such as Eclox for Doxygen, but browsing for myself was enough to find it and add it to my profiles with some other add-ons I would not have otherwise discovered. Eheheh...
Edit.If you are interested in team development and - in this case - profiles sharing and cutomization depending on the user level, you have to subscribe but this is not needed by a single user like me who is trying to reinvent a new job.
Last edited by sigmund (2011-03-14 09:16:38)

Arch Kernel Question

So... I guess I'm not a Linux 'newb' per-se, but I have a Arch newbish question. I've been a Gentoo guy for quite a while and like the system. However I have a couple new Arch boxes now that are just less headache to manage. My question is that I'm in the early stages of building a LiveCD / LiveUSB for personal use and I'm trying to decide what distro to use. The reason I'm leaning towards Arch is the larch stuff that is available.
Long story short, my question is -- within Arch are kernel upgrades just part of a system update (I believe they are from what I've seen) or is there a facility, like within Gentoo, to hold back a particular kernel?
My next question is somewhat similar -- if I'd like to run a vanilla kernel and maintain it myself how does that affect system updates?
The problem I see is that I need a lot of customization in the kernel, and I need it not to be bleeding edge. A lot of this has to do with the tools stability so I want to be sticking pretty hard to a kernel once it's implemented and I don't want it to be just magically updated.
Thoughts, comments, suggestions?
Kind regards,
--windexh8er

windexh8er wrote:
Cool, thanks! Is there any way that those modules are tied as dependencies to the kernel through the IgnorePkg? Wherein if I am ignoring kernel updates it will also ignore any modules that are in the package system?
Thanks for the quick reply and welcome.
--windexh8er
You're going to have to explicitly block anything that you don't want to upgrade, including modules. Of course there will come a time (major kernel version bump) that stuff simply won't upgrade anymore. In that case, pacman will fail with errors.

Arch Package 7zip, Bzip2, Gzip comparison (newer one below)

EDIT (18 April 2005): I redid this test with a larger package sample. See post below.
I've been fooling around with p7zip lately (you can get the PKGBUILD via the AUR). The most recent version is supposed to take advantage of some pretty substantial speed enhancements. Anyway, I thought I'd compare 7zip on arch with bzip2 and gzip to see how they would compress some arch packages. Here are the (non-scientific and non-canonical) results. (This was done on a pentium2-class celeron, so tests on most other i686s will yield smaller time differences between formats most likely)
Here's the packages I chose to test:
acroread-7.0.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
fakeroot-1.2.2-2.pkg.tar.gz
gecko-sdk-1.7.3-1.pkg.tar.gz
gtk-smooth-engine-0.5.8-3.pkg.tar.gz
hal-0.4.7-1.pkg.tar.gz
hotplug-2004_09_23-4.pkg.tar.gz
lame-3.96.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
mozilla-common-1.0-2.pkg.tar.gz
mrxvt-0.4.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
mtools-3.9.9-2.pkg.tar.gz
openldap-2.2.24-1.pkg.tar.gz
sdl_ttf-2.0.6-2.pkg.tar.gz
xmms-cdparanoia-0.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
xorg-11R6.8.2-2.pkg.tar.gz
xpdf-3.00-7.pkg.tar.gz
zip-2.3-3.pkg.tar.gz
zlib-1.2.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
(Looking back on this now, I realize didn't get a good batch of 1MB to 10MB samples included.)
I ungziped these samples, then rezipped them in 7zip, bzip2, and gzip once again. Here are the (very approximate) times it took each to zip these tarfiles sequentially (the 7zip is especially fuzzy since I screwed up during the compression):
EDIT: I redid the compression in a more accurate manner and got the following results:
7zip compress: 19:41
Bzip2 compress: 8:56
Gzip compress: 3:00
One caveat: Approximately half of 7zip's time was spent on acroread. On all other files, it was approximately as fast as bzip2, and (by my perception) a little bit quicker on xorg.
Later, I decompressed all of them in sequence, yielding these times (much more accurate):
7zip decompress: 1:23
Bzip2 decompress: 2:37
Gzip decompress: 34 seconds
Here are the comparative sizes of the compressed files grouped by compression format. The percentages refer to the compressed archive's size compared to the tar it compressed. The overall percentages refer to the commulative sizes of the compressed archives compared to the commulative sizes of the tarfiles. Smaller percentages equal smaller files.
tar/:
total 241176 (100% tar size)
128337 xorg-11R6.8.2-2.pkg.tar
96814 acroread-7.0.0-1.pkg.tar
4957 gecko-sdk-1.7.3-1.pkg.tar
4857 xpdf-3.00-7.pkg.tar
2715 openldap-2.2.24-1.pkg.tar
953 lame-3.96.1-2.pkg.tar
541 gtk-smooth-engine-0.5.8-3.pkg.tar
533 hal-0.4.7-1.pkg.tar
400 mtools-3.9.9-2.pkg.tar
312 mrxvt-0.4.0-1.pkg.tar
232 zlib-1.2.2-1.pkg.tar
160 zip-2.3-3.pkg.tar
152 hotplug-2004_09_23-4.pkg.tar
112 fakeroot-1.2.2-2.pkg.tar
60 sdl_ttf-2.0.6-2.pkg.tar
32 xmms-cdparanoia-0.1-1.pkg.tar
12 mozilla-common-1.0-2.pkg.tar
gz/:
total 105104 (43% tar size)
60627 xorg-11R6.8.2-2.pkg.tar.gz (47%)
39194 acroread-7.0.0-1.pkg.tar.gz (40%)
1886 xpdf-3.00-7.pkg.tar.gz (39%)
1057 openldap-2.2.24-1.pkg.tar.gz (39%)
973 gecko-sdk-1.7.3-1.pkg.tar.gz (19%)
440 lame-3.96.1-2.pkg.tar.gz (46%)
180 mtools-3.9.9-2.pkg.tar.gz (45%)
176 hal-0.4.7-1.pkg.tar.gz (33%)
156 gtk-smooth-engine-0.5.8-3.pkg.tar.gz (29%)
140 mrxvt-0.4.0-1.pkg.tar.gz (45%)
92 zlib-1.2.2-1.pkg.tar.gz (40%)
68 zip-2.3-3.pkg.tar.gz (43%)
48 fakeroot-1.2.2-2.pkg.tar.gz (43%)
32 hotplug-2004_09_23-4.pkg.tar.gz (21%)
20 sdl_ttf-2.0.6-2.pkg.tar.gz (33%)
12 xmms-cdparanoia-0.1-1.pkg.tar.gz (38%)
4 mozilla-common-1.0-2.pkg.tar.gz (33%)
bz2/:
total 100035 (41% tar size)
58285 xorg-11R6.8.2-2.pkg.tar.bz2 (45%)
37108 acroread-7.0.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2 (38%)
1694 xpdf-3.00-7.pkg.tar.bz2 (35%)
949 openldap-2.2.24-1.pkg.tar.bz2 (35%)
817 gecko-sdk-1.7.3-1.pkg.tar.bz2 (16%)
316 lame-3.96.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2 (33%)
176 mtools-3.9.9-2.pkg.tar.bz2 (44%)
160 hal-0.4.7-1.pkg.tar.bz2 (30%)
140 gtk-smooth-engine-0.5.8-3.pkg.tar.bz2 (26%)
136 mrxvt-0.4.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2 (44%)
76 zlib-1.2.2-1.pkg.tar.bz2 (33%)
68 zip-2.3-3.pkg.tar.bz2 (43%)
48 fakeroot-1.2.2-2.pkg.tar.bz2 (43%)
28 hotplug-2004_09_23-4.pkg.tar.bz2 (18%)
20 sdl_ttf-2.0.6-2.pkg.tar.bz2 (33%)
12 xmms-cdparanoia-0.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2 (38%)
4 mozilla-common-1.0-2.pkg.tar.bz2 (33%)
7z/:
total 80277 (33% tar size)
47971 xorg-11R6.8.2-2.pkg.tar.7z (37%)
29369 acroread-7.0.0-1.pkg.tar.7z (30%)
709 openldap-2.2.24-1.pkg.tar.7z (26%)
697 gecko-sdk-1.7.3-1.pkg.tar.7z (14%)
553 xpdf-3.00-7.pkg.tar.7z (11%) (I double checked this one)
232 lame-3.96.1-2.pkg.tar.7z (24%)
160 mtools-3.9.9-2.pkg.tar.7z (40%)
140 hal-0.4.7-1.pkg.tar.7z (26%)
120 mrxvt-0.4.0-1.pkg.tar.7z (38%)
112 gtk-smooth-engine-0.5.8-3.pkg.tar.7z (21%)
60 zlib-1.2.2-1.pkg.tar.7z (26%)
60 zip-2.3-3.pkg.tar.7z (38%)
40 fakeroot-1.2.2-2.pkg.tar.7z (33%)
28 hotplug-2004_09_23-4.pkg.tar.7z (18%)
16 sdl_ttf-2.0.6-2.pkg.tar.7z (27%)
8 xmms-cdparanoia-0.1-1.pkg.tar.7z (25%)
4 mozilla-common-1.0-2.pkg.tar.7z (33%)
Overall, you can tell that 7zip files are consistantly much smaller than gzip or bzip2, albeit taking much longer to compress. It should be noted again that 7zips long compression time on acroread may be atypical, and that in a grander scheme it would be more comparable to bzip2 in speed. Unlike bzip2, which compressed files just a few percentages smaller than gzip, 7zip was much more effective at compressing at significantly smaller sizes. In the longer run, if 7zip and p7zip continue to increase compression and decompression speed, it might become a viable alternative to gzip.

I redid the test with a larger/more diversified package set. For the sake of brevity, I'll put the interesting info at the beginning:
Here are the times:
7zcompress: 53:08
bz2compress: 23:26
gzcompress: 8:07
7zdecompress: 3:01
bz2decompress: 5:54
gzdecompress: 1:14
Here are the commulative size comparisons of the formats with percentages refering to their size vis-a-vis the original tarfile (see below for details:
Cummulative tar size: 673329
gzip: 251219 (37%)
bzip2: 223803 (33%)
7zip: 183214 (27%)
Conclusions:
It appears the compression latencies seen with acroread previously are pretty consistent and not just a fluke. On the other end, 7zip this time appears to be a bit faster in decompression in relation to bzip2 than the previous round. Moreover, although 7zip generates archives that are significantly smaller than their gzip and bzip2 equivalents, this round reveals a smaller margin of difference between bzip2 archives and 7zip archives. In general, all three formats yielded better compression sizes than in the previous round. 7zip looks like a promising compression utility, especially if it can cut down on the compression time, which appears comparatively abhorrent on my celeron1 450mhz.
Here's the list of the original tar files:
total 673329
128337 xorg-11R6.8.2-2.pkg.tar
128017 tetex-3.0-1.pkg.tar
85123 j2re-1.5.0_01-1.pkg.tar
34654 python-2.4.1-1.pkg.tar
31271 perl-5.8.6-2.pkg.tar
10883 ruby-1.8.2-3.pkg.tar
10282 vim-6.3-4.pkg.tar
9349 xine-lib-1.0-1.pkg.tar
9089 foomatic-2.0.3-2.pkg.tar
6959 perl-tk-804.027-1.pkg.tar
6839 db-4.3.27-2.pkg.tar
6787 ted-2.17-1.pkg.tar
6558 ncurses-5.4-2.pkg.tar
6498 ding-1.3-3.pkg.tar
6238 binutils-2.15-1.pkg.tar
6026 xfwm4-themes-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
5557 xfce4-icon-theme-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
5285 xmms-1.2.10-3.pkg.tar
5097 tcl-8.4.9-1.pkg.tar
4897 lesstif-0.94.0-1.pkg.tar
4857 xpdf-3.00-7.pkg.tar
4805 xmms-skins-0.3-1.pkg.tar
4404 libgphoto2-2.1.5-1.pkg.tar
4264 pygtk-2.6.1-1.pkg.tar
4076 libxml2-2.6.19-1.pkg.tar
3864 ttf-ms-fonts-1.3-6.pkg.tar
3704 bmp-0.9.7-1.pkg.tar
3636 tk-8.4.9-1.pkg.tar
3624 doxygen-1.4.1-1.pkg.tar
3596 heimdal-0.6.3-3.pkg.tar
3415 fortune-mod-9708-1.pkg.tar
3323 xfdesktop-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
3295 xffm-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar
3143 pan-0.14.2.91-2.pkg.tar
2715 libvorbis-1.1.0-1.pkg.tar
2663 xine-ui-0.99.3-2.pkg.tar
2603 vte-0.11.11-4.pkg.tar
2462 flac-1.1.2-2.pkg.tar
2414 freetype2-2.1.9-2.pkg.tar
2402 xfwm4-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
2362 libxfcegui4-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
2242 libtool-1.5.14-1.pkg.tar
2062 flashplugin-7.0.25.0-1.pkg.tar
2062 nedit-5.5-1.pkg.tar
2054 pango-1.8.1-1.pkg.tar
2034 dbus-0.23.2-3.pkg.tar
1914 hwd-4.1.2-1.pkg.tar
1902 xfce4-session-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
1874 hpijs-1.7.1-1.pkg.tar
1762 xfce4-artwork-0.0.4-1.pkg.tar
1522 fftw-3.0.1-2.pkg.tar
1514 t1lib-5.0.2-1.pkg.tar
1473 jasper-1.701.0-1.pkg.tar
1473 lincity-1.12.1-1.pkg.tar
1453 file-4.13-1.pkg.tar
1421 tunepimp-0.3.0-3.pkg.tar
1321 libtiff-3.7.2-1.pkg.tar
1281 divx4linux-5.10-3.pkg.tar
1261 lynx-2.8.5-2.pkg.tar
1213 libmng-1.0.9-1.pkg.tar
1193 lftp-3.1.2-1.pkg.tar
1193 xfce4-wavelan-plugin-0.4.1-1.pkg.tar
1173 pilot-link-0.11.8-3.pkg.tar
1013 prelink-20041123-1.pkg.tar
993 lm_sensors-2.9.1-1.pkg.tar
973 tar-1.15.1-1.pkg.tar
973 xfce-utils-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
973 xfce4-panel-4.2.1.1-1.pkg.tar
961 libxslt-1.1.14-1.pkg.tar
961 pam-0.79-1.pkg.tar
953 lame-3.96.1-2.pkg.tar
953 libgsf-1.11.1-2.pkg.tar
941 reiserfsprogs-3.6.19-1.pkg.tar
921 libpng-1.2.8-1.pkg.tar
913 pacman-2.9.5-1.pkg.tar
881 libgcrypt-1.2.1-1.pkg.tar
853 jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0-2.pkg.tar
833 faad2-devel-2.0.cvs20040915-1.pkg.tar
833 libsndfile-1.0.11-1.pkg.tar
813 bash-3.0-6.pkg.tar
813 timidity++-2.13.0-1.pkg.tar
801 nano-1.2.4-3.pkg.tar
781 xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
773 libcroco-0.6.0-2.pkg.tar
741 fontconfig-2.3.1-1.pkg.tar
741 xfprint-4.2.1-2.pkg.tar
733 libmikmod-3.1.11-1.pkg.tar
701 bison-2.0-1.pkg.tar
693 librsvg-2.9.5-1.pkg.tar
693 taglib-1.3.1-1.pkg.tar
653 ppp-2.4.3-1.pkg.tar
653 tidyhtml-20040308-1.pkg.tar
641 faad2-2.0-5.pkg.tar
633 readline-5.0-3.pkg.tar
621 lcms-1.14-1.pkg.tar
593 lua-5.0.2-1.pkg.tar
581 xfce4-weather-plugin-0.4.1-1.pkg.tar
561 libidn-0.5.15-1.pkg.tar
541 findutils-4.2.20-1.pkg.tar
533 hal-0.4.7-1.pkg.tar
513 foomatic-db-engine-3.0.1-1.pkg.tar
513 libmal-0.40-1.pkg.tar
501 libxfce4util-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
501 perlxml-2.34-3.pkg.tar
493 pornview-0.1.5-2.pkg.tar
493 vorbis-tools-1.0.1-5.pkg.tar
481 rar-3.4.1-1.pkg.tar
473 libglade-2.5.1-1.pkg.tar
473 libjpeg-6b-3.pkg.tar
452 libksba-0.9.9-1.pkg.tar
440 flex-2.5.31-2.pkg.tar
440 libungif-4.1.3-1.pkg.tar
432 libidl2-0.8.5-1.pkg.tar
420 libexif-0.6.9-1.pkg.tar
420 xfce4-mixer-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar
412 libidl-0.6.8-1.pkg.tar
400 docbook-xml-4.1.2-2.pkg.tar
400 raptor-1.3.1-1.pkg.tar
392 libpcap-0.8.3-1.pkg.tar
380 freetype1-1.3.1-2.pkg.tar
372 feh-1.2.9-1.pkg.tar
372 nasm-0.98.39-1.pkg.tar
372 net-tools-1.60-9.pkg.tar
360 procps-3.2.5-1.pkg.tar
352 pciutils-2.1.11-3.pkg.tar
332 libart-lgpl-2.3.17-1.pkg.tar
332 pcre-5.0-1.pkg.tar
300 libtheora-1.0alpha4-1.pkg.tar
292 xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
272 libelf-0.8.5-1.pkg.tar
260 ripperx-2.6.4-1.pkg.tar
252 libsamplerate-0.1.2-1.pkg.tar
252 pth-2.0.3-1.pkg.tar
252 xfcalendar-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar
240 fam-2.7.0-3.pkg.tar
240 pinentry-0.7.1-1.pkg.tar
232 libxfce4mcs-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
232 lilo-22.7-1.pkg.tar
232 lzo-1.08-1.pkg.tar
232 psutils-p17-3.pkg.tar
232 xfce4-appfinder-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
232 xfce4-iconbox-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar
232 zlib-1.2.2-1.pkg.tar
220 foomatic-filters-3.0.1-2.pkg.tar
220 libmad-0.15.1b-1.pkg.tar
220 xfce4-toys-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
212 libtasn1-0.2.13-1.pkg.tar
200 bzip2-1.0.3-1.pkg.tar
200 fribidi-0.10.4-1.pkg.tar
200 normalize-0.7.6-1.pkg.tar
200 rdesktop-1.3.1-3.pkg.tar
192 libcdaudio-0.99.10-1.pkg.tar
192 libid3tag-0.15.1b-1.pkg.tar
180 dvd+rw-tools-5.21.4.10.8-2.pkg.tar
180 faac-1.24-1.pkg.tar
180 libieee1284-0.2.8-1.pkg.tar
180 libtar-1.2.11-2.pkg.tar
180 psmisc-21.6-1.pkg.tar
172 tcp_wrappers-7.6-6.pkg.tar
160 xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
160 zip-2.3-3.pkg.tar
152 dirmngr-0.5.6-1.pkg.tar
152 hotplug-2004_09_23-4.pkg.tar
152 less-382-2.pkg.tar
152 rxvt-2.6.4-2.pkg.tar
152 xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.3.2-2.pkg.tar
140 libraw1394-1.1.0-1.pkg.tar
140 ratpoison-1.3.0-2.pkg.tar
132 namcap-1.5.2.1-2.pkg.tar
120 bin86-0.16.16-1.pkg.tar
120 dialog-1.0-3.pkg.tar
120 tpctl-4.15-1.pkg.tar
120 xfce4-notes-plugin-0.10.0-1.pkg.tar
112 desktop-file-utils-0.10-1.pkg.tar
112 fakeroot-1.2.2-2.pkg.tar
112 libgpg-error-1.0-1.pkg.tar
112 pkgconfig-0.16.0-1.pkg.tar
100 ladspa-1.12-2.pkg.tar
100 xfce4-netload-plugin-0.3.1-1.pkg.tar
92 libao-0.8.6-1.pkg.tar
92 liblrdf-0.3.7-1.pkg.tar
92 libusb-0.1.8-5.pkg.tar
92 lzop-1.01-3.pkg.tar
92 pmount-0.6-1.pkg.tar
92 xfce4-systemload-plugin-0.3.6-1.pkg.tar
80 libassuan-0.6.7-1.pkg.tar
80 libmusepack-1.0.3.1-2.pkg.tar
80 xfce4-battery-plugin-0.2.0-3.pkg.tar
80 xfce4-fsguard-plugin-0.2.0-2.pkg.tar
72 dbh-1.0.24-1.pkg.tar
72 libcap-1.10-1.pkg.tar
72 libogg-1.1.2-1.pkg.tar
72 xfce4-cpugraph-plugin-0.2.2-2.pkg.tar
72 xfce4-diskperf-plugin-1.5-2.pkg.tar
60 devfsd-1.3.25-4.pkg.tar
60 filesystem-0.7-5.pkg.tar
60 xfce4-sensors-plugin-0.3.0-1.pkg.tar
60 xfce4-showdesktop-plugin-0.4.0-1.pkg.tar
60 xmms-mad-0.7-1.pkg.tar
60 xmms-musepack-1.1.1-2.pkg.tar
52 dcron-2.9-2.pkg.tar
52 dhcpcd-1.3.22pl4-4.pkg.tar
52 portmap-5beta-9.pkg.tar
52 xfce4-datetime-plugin-0.3.1-2.pkg.tar
52 xfce4-windowlist-plugin-0.1.0-2.pkg.tar
40 xfce4-minicmd-plugin-0.3.0-1.pkg.tar
40 xfce4-taskbar-plugin-0.2.2-1.pkg.tar
40 xfce4-xmms-plugin-0.1.1-2.pkg.tar
32 xfce4-clipman-plugin-0.4.1-2.pkg.tar
32 xfce4-systray-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar
32 xmms-cdparanoia-0.1-1.pkg.tar
20 netselect-0.3-1.pkg.tar
20 rpm2targz-9.0-s1.pkg.tar
12 rpmunpack-0-1.pkg.tar
And here are the sizes, without individual package percentages this time (see above for tar sizes):
gzip:
total 251219 (37% of the total size of the tarfiles)
60627 xorg-11R6.8.2-2.pkg.tar.gz
43298 tetex-3.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
29881 j2re-1.5.0_01-1.pkg.tar.gz
11920 perl-5.8.6-2.pkg.tar.gz
10170 python-2.4.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
4560 xmms-skins-0.3-1.pkg.tar.gz
3972 xine-lib-1.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
3383 ttf-ms-fonts-1.3-6.pkg.tar.gz
3019 vim-6.3-4.pkg.tar.gz
2691 db-4.3.27-2.pkg.tar.gz
2474 ruby-1.8.2-3.pkg.tar.gz
2442 binutils-2.15-1.pkg.tar.gz
2374 perl-tk-804.027-1.pkg.tar.gz
2266 xfdesktop-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
2210 ted-2.17-1.pkg.tar.gz
1986 ding-1.3-3.pkg.tar.gz
1906 xffm-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
1902 xmms-1.2.10-3.pkg.tar.gz
1886 xpdf-3.00-7.pkg.tar.gz
1734 xfce4-artwork-0.0.4-1.pkg.tar.gz
1722 lesstif-0.94.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
1710 tcl-8.4.9-1.pkg.tar.gz
1574 ncurses-5.4-2.pkg.tar.gz
1566 xine-ui-0.99.3-2.pkg.tar.gz
1429 fortune-mod-9708-1.pkg.tar.gz
1409 xfce4-icon-theme-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
1409 libxml2-2.6.19-1.pkg.tar.gz
1373 tk-8.4.9-1.pkg.tar.gz
1373 hpijs-1.7.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
1333 libgphoto2-2.1.5-1.pkg.tar.gz
1309 doxygen-1.4.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
1249 heimdal-0.6.3-3.pkg.tar.gz
1117 pygtk-2.6.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
1117 pan-0.14.2.91-2.pkg.tar.gz
1065 vte-0.11.11-4.pkg.tar.gz
1001 xfce4-session-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
965 bmp-0.9.7-1.pkg.tar.gz
961 flashplugin-7.0.25.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
829 t1lib-5.0.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
817 nedit-5.5-1.pkg.tar.gz
753 foomatic-2.0.3-2.pkg.tar.gz
677 dbus-0.23.2-3.pkg.tar.gz
665 freetype2-2.1.9-2.pkg.tar.gz
657 flac-1.1.2-2.pkg.tar.gz
629 jasper-1.701.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
577 xfwm4-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
577 lynx-2.8.5-2.pkg.tar.gz
553 fftw-3.0.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
545 libxfcegui4-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
541 xfwm4-themes-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
521 libtool-1.5.14-1.pkg.tar.gz
505 lftp-3.1.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
501 libtiff-3.7.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
485 tunepimp-0.3.0-3.pkg.tar.gz
456 prelink-20041123-1.pkg.tar.gz
456 pango-1.8.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
452 libvorbis-1.1.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
444 reiserfsprogs-3.6.19-1.pkg.tar.gz
440 lame-3.96.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
432 faad2-devel-2.0.cvs20040915-1.pkg.tar.gz
428 pilot-link-0.11.8-3.pkg.tar.gz
404 hwd-4.1.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
400 divx4linux-5.10-3.pkg.tar.gz
400 pacman-2.9.5-1.pkg.tar.gz
388 bash-3.0-6.pkg.tar.gz
388 xfce4-panel-4.2.1.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
388 libmng-1.0.9-1.pkg.tar.gz
380 lincity-1.12.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
376 libgcrypt-1.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
376 timidity++-2.13.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
364 libpng-1.2.8-1.pkg.tar.gz
340 xfce4-weather-plugin-0.4.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
336 tar-1.15.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
336 pam-0.79-1.pkg.tar.gz
336 libxslt-1.1.14-1.pkg.tar.gz
332 faad2-2.0-5.pkg.tar.gz
320 xfce-utils-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
308 xfprint-4.2.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
304 fontconfig-2.3.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
300 libsndfile-1.0.11-1.pkg.tar.gz
296 xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
280 xfce4-wavelan-plugin-0.4.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
280 nano-1.2.4-3.pkg.tar.gz
276 ppp-2.4.3-1.pkg.tar.gz
272 file-4.13-1.pkg.tar.gz
268 libmikmod-3.1.11-1.pkg.tar.gz
252 lm_sensors-2.9.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
248 lua-5.0.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
248 readline-5.0-3.pkg.tar.gz
248 librsvg-2.9.5-1.pkg.tar.gz
244 feh-1.2.9-1.pkg.tar.gz
244 rar-3.4.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
240 tidyhtml-20040308-1.pkg.tar.gz
236 lcms-1.14-1.pkg.tar.gz
232 libcroco-0.6.0-2.pkg.tar.gz
228 perlxml-2.34-3.pkg.tar.gz
212 libgsf-1.11.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
212 libsamplerate-0.1.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
208 bison-2.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
200 libjpeg-6b-3.pkg.tar.gz
196 pornview-0.1.5-2.pkg.tar.gz
188 jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0-2.pkg.tar.gz
188 libidn-0.5.15-1.pkg.tar.gz
180 taglib-1.3.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
176 hal-0.4.7-1.pkg.tar.gz
176 procps-3.2.5-1.pkg.tar.gz
176 vorbis-tools-1.0.1-5.pkg.tar.gz
176 libksba-0.9.9-1.pkg.tar.gz
164 pcre-5.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
160 findutils-4.2.20-1.pkg.tar.gz
156 net-tools-1.60-9.pkg.tar.gz
156 libidl2-0.8.5-1.pkg.tar.gz
156 libpcap-0.8.3-1.pkg.tar.gz
148 libmal-0.40-1.pkg.tar.gz
144 nasm-0.98.39-1.pkg.tar.gz
144 xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
144 raptor-1.3.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
140 foomatic-db-engine-3.0.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
140 libidl-0.6.8-1.pkg.tar.gz
136 flex-2.5.31-2.pkg.tar.gz
132 libexif-0.6.9-1.pkg.tar.gz
132 libmad-0.15.1b-1.pkg.tar.gz
128 libtheora-1.0alpha4-1.pkg.tar.gz
128 libungif-4.1.3-1.pkg.tar.gz
128 xfce4-mixer-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
124 libglade-2.5.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
120 pciutils-2.1.11-3.pkg.tar.gz
116 freetype1-1.3.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
112 pth-2.0.3-1.pkg.tar.gz
112 lilo-22.7-1.pkg.tar.gz
108 libxfce4util-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
108 libart-lgpl-2.3.17-1.pkg.tar.gz
104 pinentry-0.7.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
104 xfce4-appfinder-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
96 normalize-0.7.6-1.pkg.tar.gz
96 ripperx-2.6.4-1.pkg.tar.gz
92 libtasn1-0.2.13-1.pkg.tar.gz
92 zlib-1.2.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
88 fam-2.7.0-3.pkg.tar.gz
80 faac-1.24-1.pkg.tar.gz
80 libelf-0.8.5-1.pkg.tar.gz
80 bzip2-1.0.3-1.pkg.tar.gz
80 less-382-2.pkg.tar.gz
76 dvd+rw-tools-5.21.4.10.8-2.pkg.tar.gz
72 libid3tag-0.15.1b-1.pkg.tar.gz
72 libcdaudio-0.99.10-1.pkg.tar.gz
68 zip-2.3-3.pkg.tar.gz
64 dirmngr-0.5.6-1.pkg.tar.gz
64 libieee1284-0.2.8-1.pkg.tar.gz
64 tcp_wrappers-7.6-6.pkg.tar.gz
64 docbook-xml-4.1.2-2.pkg.tar.gz
60 dialog-1.0-3.pkg.tar.gz
60 rxvt-2.6.4-2.pkg.tar.gz
60 rdesktop-1.3.1-3.pkg.tar.gz
60 xfcalendar-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
60 psutils-p17-3.pkg.tar.gz
56 foomatic-filters-3.0.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
56 ratpoison-1.3.0-2.pkg.tar.gz
56 bin86-0.16.16-1.pkg.tar.gz
52 xfce4-iconbox-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
52 fribidi-0.10.4-1.pkg.tar.gz
48 fakeroot-1.2.2-2.pkg.tar.gz
48 desktop-file-utils-0.10-1.pkg.tar.gz
48 pkgconfig-0.16.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
48 lzo-1.08-1.pkg.tar.gz
48 xfce4-toys-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
48 psmisc-21.6-1.pkg.tar.gz
48 libxfce4mcs-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
48 xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.3.2-2.pkg.tar.gz
44 tpctl-4.15-1.pkg.tar.gz
44 lzop-1.01-3.pkg.tar.gz
44 libtar-1.2.11-2.pkg.tar.gz
40 libraw1394-1.1.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
32 ladspa-1.12-2.pkg.tar.gz
32 hotplug-2004_09_23-4.pkg.tar.gz
32 xfce4-netload-plugin-0.3.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
32 libgpg-error-1.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
32 xfce4-notes-plugin-0.10.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
28 libmusepack-1.0.3.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
28 devfsd-1.3.25-4.pkg.tar.gz
28 liblrdf-0.3.7-1.pkg.tar.gz
28 xfce4-battery-plugin-0.2.0-3.pkg.tar.gz
28 pmount-0.6-1.pkg.tar.gz
28 xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
28 xmms-musepack-1.1.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
28 libassuan-0.6.7-1.pkg.tar.gz
28 xfce4-diskperf-plugin-1.5-2.pkg.tar.gz
28 dbh-1.0.24-1.pkg.tar.gz
28 xfce4-systemload-plugin-0.3.6-1.pkg.tar.gz
24 libao-0.8.6-1.pkg.tar.gz
24 namcap-1.5.2.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
24 xmms-mad-0.7-1.pkg.tar.gz
24 libusb-0.1.8-5.pkg.tar.gz
24 xfce4-cpugraph-plugin-0.2.2-2.pkg.tar.gz
20 dhcpcd-1.3.22pl4-4.pkg.tar.gz
20 libogg-1.1.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
20 libcap-1.10-1.pkg.tar.gz
20 xfce4-sensors-plugin-0.3.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
20 portmap-5beta-9.pkg.tar.gz
20 xfce4-fsguard-plugin-0.2.0-2.pkg.tar.gz
16 dcron-2.9-2.pkg.tar.gz
16 xfce4-showdesktop-plugin-0.4.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
16 xfce4-windowlist-plugin-0.1.0-2.pkg.tar.gz
16 xfce4-datetime-plugin-0.3.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
12 xfce4-taskbar-plugin-0.2.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
12 xfce4-minicmd-plugin-0.3.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
12 xfce4-clipman-plugin-0.4.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
12 xmms-cdparanoia-0.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
8 netselect-0.3-1.pkg.tar.gz
8 xfce4-xmms-plugin-0.1.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
8 xfce4-systray-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.gz
4 rpm2targz-9.0-s1.pkg.tar.gz
4 filesystem-0.7-5.pkg.tar.gz
4 rpmunpack-0-1.pkg.tar.gz
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total 223803 (33% of total tar file size)
58285 xorg-11R6.8.2-2.pkg.tar.bz2
37961 tetex-3.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
25245 j2re-1.5.0_01-1.pkg.tar.bz2
10815 perl-5.8.6-2.pkg.tar.bz2
8048 python-2.4.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
4621 xmms-skins-0.3-1.pkg.tar.bz2
3988 xine-lib-1.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
3259 ttf-ms-fonts-1.3-6.pkg.tar.bz2
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2230 db-4.3.27-2.pkg.tar.bz2
2142 ruby-1.8.2-3.pkg.tar.bz2
2106 perl-tk-804.027-1.pkg.tar.bz2
1970 ted-2.17-1.pkg.tar.bz2
1958 binutils-2.15-1.pkg.tar.bz2
1782 xffm-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
1746 ding-1.3-3.pkg.tar.bz2
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1694 xpdf-3.00-7.pkg.tar.bz2
1546 lesstif-0.94.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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1317 xmms-1.2.10-3.pkg.tar.bz2
1269 doxygen-1.4.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
1249 libxml2-2.6.19-1.pkg.tar.bz2
1249 tk-8.4.9-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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1161 fortune-mod-9708-1.pkg.tar.bz2
1121 hpijs-1.7.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
1073 heimdal-0.6.3-3.pkg.tar.bz2
1001 libgphoto2-2.1.5-1.pkg.tar.bz2
945 vte-0.11.11-4.pkg.tar.bz2
929 flashplugin-7.0.25.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
905 pygtk-2.6.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
897 xfce4-session-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
849 pan-0.14.2.91-2.pkg.tar.bz2
813 t1lib-5.0.2-1.pkg.tar.bz2
769 bmp-0.9.7-1.pkg.tar.bz2
761 nedit-5.5-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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557 freetype2-2.1.9-2.pkg.tar.bz2
545 lynx-2.8.5-2.pkg.tar.bz2
529 xfwm4-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
509 flac-1.1.2-2.pkg.tar.bz2
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420 libxfcegui4-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
416 foomatic-2.0.3-2.pkg.tar.bz2
404 prelink-20041123-1.pkg.tar.bz2
400 fftw-3.0.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
396 divx4linux-5.10-3.pkg.tar.bz2
396 pilot-link-0.11.8-3.pkg.tar.bz2
388 lincity-1.12.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
380 xfce4-panel-4.2.1.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
380 timidity++-2.13.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
368 pango-1.8.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
368 xfwm4-themes-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
364 libvorbis-1.1.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
360 pacman-2.9.5-1.pkg.tar.bz2
356 jasper-1.701.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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316 lame-3.96.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
316 libmng-1.0.9-1.pkg.tar.bz2
304 xfce4-weather-plugin-0.4.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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296 xfprint-4.2.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
288 pam-0.79-1.pkg.tar.bz2
280 xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
276 libgcrypt-1.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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276 libpng-1.2.8-1.pkg.tar.bz2
272 faad2-2.0-5.pkg.tar.bz2
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192 perlxml-2.34-3.pkg.tar.bz2
192 libcroco-0.6.0-2.pkg.tar.bz2
192 bison-2.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
176 tidyhtml-20040308-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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164 pcre-5.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
160 hal-0.4.7-1.pkg.tar.bz2
160 libidn-0.5.15-1.pkg.tar.bz2
160 libgsf-1.11.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
152 jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0-2.pkg.tar.bz2
148 taglib-1.3.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
148 libksba-0.9.9-1.pkg.tar.bz2
144 xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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140 lua-5.0.2-1.pkg.tar.bz2
140 nasm-0.98.39-1.pkg.tar.bz2
140 libidl2-0.8.5-1.pkg.tar.bz2
136 vorbis-tools-1.0.1-5.pkg.tar.bz2
132 flex-2.5.31-2.pkg.tar.bz2
128 libpcap-0.8.3-1.pkg.tar.bz2
128 net-tools-1.60-9.pkg.tar.bz2
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124 raptor-1.3.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
124 libmal-0.40-1.pkg.tar.bz2
124 libidl-0.6.8-1.pkg.tar.bz2
116 lilo-22.7-1.pkg.tar.bz2
112 xfce4-mixer-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
108 pciutils-2.1.11-3.pkg.tar.bz2
108 pth-2.0.3-1.pkg.tar.bz2
108 freetype1-1.3.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
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108 libungif-4.1.3-1.pkg.tar.bz2
108 libexif-0.6.9-1.pkg.tar.bz2
108 libglade-2.5.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
104 xfce4-appfinder-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
100 normalize-0.7.6-1.pkg.tar.bz2
100 libmad-0.15.1b-1.pkg.tar.bz2
96 ripperx-2.6.4-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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88 libart-lgpl-2.3.17-1.pkg.tar.bz2
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84 libxfce4util-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
84 fam-2.7.0-3.pkg.tar.bz2
80 less-382-2.pkg.tar.bz2
76 zlib-1.2.2-1.pkg.tar.bz2
72 libelf-0.8.5-1.pkg.tar.bz2
68 zip-2.3-3.pkg.tar.bz2
68 faac-1.24-1.pkg.tar.bz2
68 dvd+rw-tools-5.21.4.10.8-2.pkg.tar.bz2
64 bzip2-1.0.3-1.pkg.tar.bz2
64 dirmngr-0.5.6-1.pkg.tar.bz2
64 tcp_wrappers-7.6-6.pkg.tar.bz2
64 libcdaudio-0.99.10-1.pkg.tar.bz2
60 dialog-1.0-3.pkg.tar.bz2
60 libieee1284-0.2.8-1.pkg.tar.bz2
60 libid3tag-0.15.1b-1.pkg.tar.bz2
60 rxvt-2.6.4-2.pkg.tar.bz2
56 rdesktop-1.3.1-3.pkg.tar.bz2
56 ratpoison-1.3.0-2.pkg.tar.bz2
56 xfcalendar-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
56 bin86-0.16.16-1.pkg.tar.bz2
52 psutils-p17-3.pkg.tar.bz2
52 foomatic-filters-3.0.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
52 xfce4-iconbox-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
48 fakeroot-1.2.2-2.pkg.tar.bz2
48 psmisc-21.6-1.pkg.tar.bz2
48 docbook-xml-4.1.2-2.pkg.tar.bz2
48 pkgconfig-0.16.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
48 xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.3.2-2.pkg.tar.bz2
44 xfce4-toys-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
44 tpctl-4.15-1.pkg.tar.bz2
44 fribidi-0.10.4-1.pkg.tar.bz2
44 lzop-1.01-3.pkg.tar.bz2
44 lzo-1.08-1.pkg.tar.bz2
44 xfce4-wavelan-plugin-0.4.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
44 libxfce4mcs-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
40 libtar-1.2.11-2.pkg.tar.bz2
40 libraw1394-1.1.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
36 desktop-file-utils-0.10-1.pkg.tar.bz2
32 ladspa-1.12-2.pkg.tar.bz2
28 xfce4-netload-plugin-0.3.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
28 libmusepack-1.0.3.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
28 devfsd-1.3.25-4.pkg.tar.bz2
28 libgpg-error-1.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
28 hotplug-2004_09_23-4.pkg.tar.bz2
28 pmount-0.6-1.pkg.tar.bz2
28 xfce4-battery-plugin-0.2.0-3.pkg.tar.bz2
28 liblrdf-0.3.7-1.pkg.tar.bz2
28 xfce4-notes-plugin-0.10.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
24 dbh-1.0.24-1.pkg.tar.bz2
24 xfce4-diskperf-plugin-1.5-2.pkg.tar.bz2
24 xmms-musepack-1.1.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
24 xfce4-systemload-plugin-0.3.6-1.pkg.tar.bz2
24 libao-0.8.6-1.pkg.tar.bz2
24 xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
24 libassuan-0.6.7-1.pkg.tar.bz2
24 xmms-mad-0.7-1.pkg.tar.bz2
24 libcap-1.10-1.pkg.tar.bz2
24 namcap-1.5.2.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
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20 xfce4-cpugraph-plugin-0.2.2-2.pkg.tar.bz2
20 libogg-1.1.2-1.pkg.tar.bz2
20 libusb-0.1.8-5.pkg.tar.bz2
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20 portmap-5beta-9.pkg.tar.bz2
20 xfce4-fsguard-plugin-0.2.0-2.pkg.tar.bz2
20 dcron-2.9-2.pkg.tar.bz2
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16 xfce4-datetime-plugin-0.3.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
12 xfce4-taskbar-plugin-0.2.2-1.pkg.tar.bz2
12 xfce4-minicmd-plugin-0.3.0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
12 xfce4-clipman-plugin-0.4.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
12 xmms-cdparanoia-0.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
12 netselect-0.3-1.pkg.tar.bz2
8 xfce4-xmms-plugin-0.1.1-2.pkg.tar.bz2
8 xfce4-systray-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.bz2
4 rpm2targz-9.0-s1.pkg.tar.bz2
4 filesystem-0.7-5.pkg.tar.bz2
4 rpmunpack-0-1.pkg.tar.bz2
7zip:
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32868 tetex-3.0-1.pkg.tar.7z
19107 j2re-1.5.0_01-1.pkg.tar.7z
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2995 ttf-ms-fonts-1.3-6.pkg.tar.7z
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360 flac-1.1.2-2.pkg.tar.7z
348 libtiff-3.7.2-1.pkg.tar.7z
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336 xfce4-panel-4.2.1.1-1.pkg.tar.7z
332 pango-1.8.1-1.pkg.tar.7z
328 pilot-link-0.11.8-3.pkg.tar.7z
324 tunepimp-0.3.0-3.pkg.tar.7z
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312 divx4linux-5.10-3.pkg.tar.7z
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288 bash-3.0-6.pkg.tar.7z
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260 xfce-utils-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.7z
256 pam-0.79-1.pkg.tar.7z
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244 xfce4-weather-plugin-0.4.1-1.pkg.tar.7z
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200 libgcrypt-1.2.1-1.pkg.tar.7z
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48 xfcalendar-4.2.0-1.pkg.tar.7z
44 pkgconfig-0.16.0-1.pkg.tar.7z
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36 fribidi-0.10.4-1.pkg.tar.7z
36 lzo-1.08-1.pkg.tar.7z
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28 ladspa-1.12-2.pkg.tar.7z
28 hotplug-2004_09_23-4.pkg.tar.7z
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28 devfsd-1.3.25-4.pkg.tar.7z
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24 libgpg-error-1.0-1.pkg.tar.7z
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24 dbh-1.0.24-1.pkg.tar.7z
20 xfce4-battery-plugin-0.2.0-3.pkg.tar.7z
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20 xmms-musepack-1.1.1-2.pkg.tar.7z
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20 namcap-1.5.2.1-2.pkg.tar.7z
20 libao-0.8.6-1.pkg.tar.7z
20 xfce4-diskperf-plugin-1.5-2.pkg.tar.7z
20 dhcpcd-1.3.22pl4-4.pkg.tar.7z
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20 libusb-0.1.8-5.pkg.tar.7z
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12 xfce4-minicmd-plugin-0.3.0-1.pkg.tar.7z
8 xfce4-clipman-plugin-0.4.1-2.pkg.tar.7z
8 xmms-cdparanoia-0.1-1.pkg.tar.7z
8 netselect-0.3-1.pkg.tar.7z
8 xfce4-xmms-plugin-0.1.1-2.pkg.tar.7z
8 xfce4-systray-4.2.1-1.pkg.tar.7z
4 rpm2targz-9.0-s1.pkg.tar.7z
4 filesystem-0.7-5.pkg.tar.7z
4 rpmunpack-0-1.pkg.tar.7z

Debugging applications built from Arch packages

What's the best method to debug an application buil from an arch package? Currently I build again with debug flags on, then start the application under ddd (or gdb inside emacs). That tends to do the job, but it's not a very nice way of working.
On the other hand there are some nice IDEs around (from geany to eclipse), but they require that you build the application as a project of the IDE and not from source using whatever method the application designer saw fit to use.
So I'm looking for suggestions. Are there nicer alternatives to ddd? Or are there IDEs where you can basically tell them "here's the source tree, complete with build scripts, go and make it into a project".

kumico wrote:grr
CARCH enables specific optimizations for your processor architecure (core2, athlon64, ...)
no it wouldn't work like that
core2 is a part of i686 or x_86_64
CARCH does no such thing. It simply sets the architecture to whatever arbitrary name you choose, as wizzard noted. To enable specific optimizations and such you need to modify CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS.
For more details, check out man makepkg.conf .

Firefox fonts : Mozilla binary VS Arch package

Hi,
You can see the difference hereunder. Does anyone know the reason ? TBH, I prefer the Moz binary fonts display but of course, I would prefer to use the Arch package.
Thanks in advance.
Mozilla
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=binhn0.png
Arch
http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pkgjc7.png

stonecrest wrote:For what it's worth, I think the Arch screenshot looks much nicer.
It's definitely hinted better, and has cleaner, more evenly spaced fonts. I think the moz binary screenshot looks more fuzzy and sloppy.

Download Arch Packages without Pacman

I have dial up Internet so downloading Arch packages through Pacman is not realistic. I would like to download the .pkg.tar.gz files from another computer (that has cable) and then install them locally with Pacman on this computer. I know how to accomplish all of this except the initial download of the packages on the other computer. I will not be able to use Arch on the other computer so is there any way for me to download packages from within Windows? I can find the packages I need by searching for them from here: http://www.archlinux.org/packages ,but the only links that are given from each package are to other websites that do not contain Arch binaries. Is there any way to download Arch packages outside of Arch and without Pacman?
Thank you very much
Last edited by Kienja Kenobi (2007-08-25 21:31:48)

Kienja Kenobi wrote:I have dial up Internet so downloading Arch packages through Pacman is not realistic. I would like to download the .pkg.tar.gz files from another computer (that has cable) and then install them locally with Pacman on this computer. I know how to accomplish all of this except the initial download of the packages on the other computer. I will not be able to use Arch on the other computer so is there any way for me to download packages from within Windows? I can find the packages I need by searching for them from here: http://www.archlinux.org/packages ,but the only links that are given from each package are to other websites that do not contain Arch binaries. Is there any way to download Arch packages outside of Arch and without Pacman?
pacman get them from the mirrors, so you can do the same.
But you'll have to do the dependencies resolving yourself instead of letting pacman doing it. So good luck with that.
Edit : hell, I'm tired, what I said previously was crazy..
Just do this on your arch box :
pacman -Sp <package>
Then transfer that output to the box with internet, download all the packages, and transfer them back.

A question about Arch package search web interface

If a dependency or a 'Required By' package is in [testing] or [community-testing] it's marked as such e.g. 'foo (testing)'.
pygtk 2.24.0-3 is in [extra] and should depend on packages in [extra]. One if its dependencies, pygobject2-devel, is both in [extra] and in [testing] http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort … =&limit=50
pygtk should depend on the one in extra and pacman pulls it all right, but according to the web interface http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/pygtk/ it depends on the one in testing. When you click (or mouse over) on 'pygobject (python2-gobject2)' you go to http://www.archlinux.org/packages/testi … -gobject2/ even though it's not marked as a [testing] package.
Why is it so? Is it a bug?

It may be a glitch related to package foo providing bar, like systemd providing libsystemd.
Another example of a package in [extra] depending on a package in [testing] instead of the one in non-testing repo: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra … tsservice/
accountsservice 0.6.25-1 depends on systemd 194-4 instead of systemd 194-3.
Bug reported: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32018

A formal 'Hello' to the community and a few Arch-related questions

Hi guys.
As a long-time Genoo and part-time Arch user I finally made the switch to Arch complete. Since I've been reading here quite a lot in the last year I thought I could as well create an account (acutally I did that a while back but never used it) and say hello.
I've been running Arch on my laptop for about the last year. Coming from gentoo as my first ever Linux experience, Arch seemed the next logical step whenever I should grow weary of endless compiles and re-compiles (which is about now). I'm an enthusiastic Xmonad user which is why I'm particularily fond of this forum and it's Xmonad community. That's also the reason why I stumbled upon arch in the first place. So far it hasn't let me down once and I'm really happy with my (now 2) setups.
With a little help of some of you guys on IRC I installed Arch64 on a RocketRaid 2310 Raid5 a few days ago. It's running really smooth and I'm quite impressed by the overall difference (in speed and usability) of kdemod KDE4 to my gentoo compiled one.
For those interested as to how exactly I installed (there seems to be quite some controversy about the RocketRaid cards), here's how I did it:
1) Boot from the Arch64 install cd
2) Set up the environment for compilation of the driver:
- fire up the network
- edit the mirror file to my likings (a whole lot of German mirrors over here)
- blacklist the packages kernel26, ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper-utils and tiacx
The kernel shouldn't be updated unless anyone knows some magic kexec tricks from inside a live environment
The other packages somehow depend on the kernel package
3) Pacman -Suy base-devel
4) Download the driver package, unpack and make
5) rmmod sata_mv, modprobe rr2310_00 (The sata_mv module has to be unmounted, otherwise the raid controller will crash
6) Mount the raid drive and install
I did a manual installation since that's what i'm used to from gentoo (and since I don't trust the installer all too far with the whole raid setup) and the rest of it went pretty smoothly. I had to go for by-label uuid'ing my partitions though because they come in randomly on each boot.
I do have a question now:
Is there any way to conveniently trigger rebuilding the RocketRaid driver whenever a new kernel has been installed? I did create my own PKGBUILD of the driver from an old one that's in the aur so all it would take is to tell pacman that every update of kernel26 should automatically force-update the driver even though it's version hasn't changed. The alternative is of course to just keep compiling my own kernel as I did on gentoo but I'd like to not have to think about any of that stuff and just use the system.
Or, if anyone has another cool idea how to handle this, I'm open to that too.

barzam wrote:Why don't you create a wiki entry as well with your guide? I bet it will make someone's life easier in the future!
I didn't think this was such a big deal. Also they way I did it, though working for me, is not the most elegant solution. One would rather build his own install cd with the driver included that then can serve as a backup system in case the raid driver is not rebuilt after a kernel update.

How to make a ARCH package from local folder?

hello ARCH lovers
I can't seem to figure out how to make a installable
package from a folder on my desktop?
Coming from Slackware; the procedure would be simple enough just issuing
"makepkg /root/pkgname.txz"
Now; how would I do the same in ARCH?
I know about PKGBUILD, etc but there is no source or any url's
I just need to make it into a .pkg.tar.xz
The package is my "kernel-live-kit" for both x86 and x86_64 versions of arch
enabling one to remaster there existing install into a livecd/usb, etc
The kernel itself is kernel26-zen from AUR
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30330
however; mine is quite different and also includes all components to make the livecd using modified linux-live-6.3.0
scripts and special stuff
The pkg includes a premade kernel with modules and full kernel source
The resulting live media is similar to my nFluxOS builds
http://multidistro.com/
As I will be releasing the new four horsemen of nFluxOS today; I also made 4 Kernel pkg's for the arch and slack versions
Those will be for x86/x86_64 versions for both arch and slackware
I did this in lieu of creating a quartet of x86_64 versions of nFluxOS; as that would up the number of versions to 8
and I would then have to maintain 8 distro's instead of 4.
I made a testing version of ARCH x86_64 live
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions … ost4017796
so, I really need to make the ARCH x86 and x86_64 kernel kits into installable pkg's because there are many symlinks that would get corrupted if I just tarred it and then the end user untars it and copies it somewhere it would mess up the symlinks.
as I said, in slackware I do makepkg and it creates a script named "doinst.sh" that makes all the symlinks, etc
so, any help appreciated!
thanks

You can read a simple introduction to using the ABS here.
By the way, it's not hard. Out of all the distributions I've used, Arch Linux is the only one I've figured out how to make packages for.

Arch Kernel Questions

(This is a really low-priority set of questions.)
I just wanted to know what some of the differences between the main stable 2.6 kernel and Arch's 2.6 kernel are. I'm not a fan of compiling kernels, so I'd like to know what decisions are made for the default kernel.
Let me be more specific;
1. linux-2.6.26.1/Documentation/java.txt: apparently, native support for java binaries is planned for the kernel. Will this be reflected in Arch's kernel as well?
2. Besides x86, what architectures are supported by the Arch kernel (linux-2.6.26.1/arch)?
3. Does the Arch kernel support virtualization by default?
4. Which drivers (if any) are excluded from Arch's kernel (linux-2.6.26.1/drivers)? (If any, why?)
5. Which filesystems are supported by the Arch kernel (linux-2.6.26.1/fs)? In the install, there are only 5 filesystems available so I'm guessing it's just those 5?
--- And any other major differences that are worth noting.
Thank you for reading!
- vsk

there is a bug with xen in kernels newer then 2.6.18.
arch's kernel is as vanilla as the stable release is from what I gather. Other then a few patches and some config changes. Arch tries to stay as close to vanilla as possible with all it's packages. just do a diff between the two configs.

Olmost done whit my first arch installation,questions XFCE4*SOLVED*

hi all, well yeah first post, i been reading and reading, and i have been able to sucefull install arch, and XFCE4
whit the goddies, multimedia, office stuff, configure Xorg getting 3D acceleration , getting wpa_supplicant working etc etc
olmost everything done, but since im a n00b, i have 3 questions:
*****ALL QUESTIONS SOLVED****
**SOLVED**
1) how do i make to boot into xfce4 automactly? (example: xubunti, u get to the xfce4 enviroment to login and etc)
I did some reading, and i had to change the init 3, to 5 in /etc/inittab , and then add something like xdm to the DAEMON in rc.conf which didnt work :s
So far i have edited in /home/.xinitrc , and add "exec startxfce4", so then typing startx i get xfce4, but.. ¿how can make the system to boot directly into XFCE4, and then to allow the login i want etc?
EDIT: I made it to work, reading a arch wiki in french lol (http://wiki.archlinux.fr/howto:environn … :xfce-slim), using slim, now i get directly into XFCE4
**SOLVED** thanks to paul2lv
2) Reggarding the time, is worng :S , i did changed the local time to my zone (America/Santiago) but the clock dosnt shows the right time, i selected localtime, how can i change it?? : s (tried UTC aswell, no luck)
**SOLVED** thanks to hacosta
3) last question (for this post ) i was trying to install Transmission, and when i made ./configure, it returned that i dont have GTK+ installed, but it IS :S it was installed tru pacman, so i made a "whereis gtk" wich returned= /etc/gtk /usr/include/gtk, so i tried ./configure --whit-gtk=/usr/include/gtk, but i got the same result, i tried whit ./configure --whit-gtk=/usr/include/, whit /etc , no luck, like i said im a total n00b : s
**SOLVED** thanks to dw
other question, about pacman, lets say i install VLC, so pacman need to download X packages, when i make pacman -R vlc, only removes VLC package??, if so, how do i uninstall those packages that were needed by VLC ??
well the first question is like the one im dying to understand how to do it, i did research in google, but or i didnt find, or i didnt understood :S
thanks for all the help : )
Last edited by AlmaMater (2007-03-01 14:01:25)

hacosta wrote:ok about transmission, there is a package in the community repo,
to get a login manager use one of the two methods, (just add gdm to your DAEMONS array in rc.conf) and make sure it is installed
regarding the time, i
thanks m8, i made the login manager to work reading more the wiki and using slim (pacman -S slim) and configuring, so thanks
ok i will enable the community repo and see how it goes
EDIT: works now, thanks m8
cheers
2 questions left to answer..
Last edited by AlmaMater (2007-02-28 04:17:33)

Adobe Reader 9.3.2 silent install package questions, please ...

Hello:
I am a network and Desktop Support person for a higher education facility. I was asked to take over automating software application
installs.
I have a script process, created by Auto-It (Scite script editor), that has been working well for Adobe Reader 9.1 with updates to 9.1.1, 9.1.2 and 9.1.3 (found on the Internet) -
msiexec /i \\<server>\<path>\AcroRead.msi TRANSFORMS=\\<server>\<path>\AcroRead_10132009.mst /passive /norestart /update \\<server>\<path>\AdbeRdrUpd911_all_incr.msp;\\<server>\<path>\AdbeRdrUpd912_all_incr.msp; \\<server>\<path>\AdbeRdrUpd913_all_incr.msp
My questions:
Is there a similar process for installing Adobe Reader 9.3 silently and then updating to 9.3.2?
If so, what are the steps, ex. expand/extract the initial 9.3 .EXE, then create a transform using Orca/<transform making of choice>, etc.?
With having read of some issues in this forum regarding Adobe Reader 9.3.2, should I continue using 9.1.3 and wait?
Thank you for your time.

Well we have a wiki where I work, and here is then entry I have created on how to deploy Adobe Reader. See if any of this helps, if not, we'll take it from there.
Deployment
It is HIGHLY recommended that you read and follow the directions of the deployment guide provided by Adobe located at http://www.adobe.com/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/deploying_reader9.pdf. The documentation located here is simply for a quick reference for those who have already read the guide.
The rights to distribute Adobe Reader must be obtained by filling out the form found at http://www.adobe.com/products/reader/rdr_distribution1.html. After filling out the form and being accepted to distribute Adobe Reader, you will receive an email with a link to download the redistributable version of Adobe Reader. You will be prompted to download a .exe package containing the Reader MSI file. The general form of the command to convert a Nosso-compressed file to an MSI package is:
<path to>\AdbeRdr90_en_US.exe [<switches>...]
Switch
Description
-nos_ne
Do not execute any file after installation (overrides the -e switch) This switch should be used if user only wants to extract the installer contents and not run the installer.
-nos_o
Specifies the name of folder where the contents of the expanded package are to be placed. The folder name should be enclosed in quotation marks. It is best if you do not use an existing folder, and there should be no space following the “-nos_o”.
For example:<path to>\AdbeRdr90_en_US.exe -nos_o”TestFolder” -nos_ne
Using the extracted MSI, create an Administrative Installation Point (AIP) using the command-line:
msiexec /a <path to>\AcroPro.msi transforms=<path to>\AcroPro.mst
The AcroPro.mst transform file is created by the Adobe Customization Wizard 9
You can apply any patches that may have been released since the major version release. Use the command-line:
msiexec /a <path to>\AcroPro.msi /p <path to>\AdbeRdrUpd931.msp;<path to>\AdbeRdrUpd932.msp
Once all this is complete, you can fully deploy the software by running the command-line:
<path to>\AcroRead.msi transforms=<path to>\AcroRead.mst /qb
More information can also be found in the Enterprise Administration Guide

Quick iPhone packager question...

Hello,
I am interested in purchasing Flash CS5 so I can make an iPhone app that involves PDF opening and saving, but I had a question to all those who have used AlivePDF... would it work with the packager for iphone to make an iPhone app?
If not...
With the rescources Flash CS5 has with Air 2...would I be able to open a PDF, draw on it, then save it to the iPhones desktop? Or would that just be an AlivePDF thing? If AlivePDF doesn't work with the iPhone packager, is there any way I could handle opening/saving PDF's with anything else?
Thanks in advance for the reply.
-mightybotme

Hi mightybot,
I checked with Thibaut, and he indicated AlivePDF should work with AIR 2 mobile profile and the Packager for iPhone. Let us know your results!

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