ATP check should not be possible

Hi Experts,
I have a requirement to copy the functionality of Transaction V_RA to do this:
If new order is being keyed for the material plant combination while the custom program is running, an ATP check should not be possible in the new
order. This logic already exists in V_RA.
Could someone explain how I can do the same logic to my custom program? To prevent in creation of Sales Order (VA01) of the same material and plant, not to do ATP Availability Check?
Thanks in advance!

Hello,
I am a little unsure of your desired functionality. The standard V_RA transaction sets a lock on the order. For example, you will not be able to access the sales order in VA02 when it is being processed in V_RA. This lock is set here:
SAPMV75B FORM BELEG_SPERREN
CALL FUNCTION 'ENQUEUE_EVVBAKE'
      EXPORTING
           MANDT          = SY-MANDT
           VBELN          = US_VBELN
      EXCEPTIONS
           FOREIGN_LOCK   = 2
           SYSTEM_FAILURE = 3.
US_SUBRC        = SY-SUBRC.
IF SY-SUBRC = 3.
   MESSAGE ID 'VV' TYPE 'A' NUMBER '501'.
But if you are just copying transaction V_RA, then this should be just copied over to your custom program. So I am not fully sure exactly what you are trying to do.
There are also standard locks in transactions OVZ1 and OVZ2 that may be relevant to the issue.
If none of the above helps, then please come back to me with further elaboration.

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