Audio mixing different sources

I'm working on a compilation of movie scenes with a song playing over them so you don't hear any of the original audio.
One of the clips I want to inlude the dialogue. I want to know the best way to balance the audio of the clip with the song. It's a scene from Gladiator where Maximus asks a crowd in the arena "are you not entertained?" The source audio has a fairly loud crowd noise in the background and I was wondering if its possible in Adobe Premiere to lower the volume of the crowd? Or do I need a separate audio mixing program?

You might be able to EQ / filter some of the crowd noise out,
but basically you are using a mix and are stuck with what's there.
I don't know your context, but I would be initially inclined
to not try and hide the crowd noise... just use it.
Maybe sneak in a bit of 'crowd noise only' right before the dialog,
then mix it out after the line to keep it from being a jarring audio cut.
note:
Audition has more refined audio tools than Premiere.

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Hi,
I have a few clips containing audio. Then add 1 song to the timeline too, and I want to hear audio from both the song and the clips.
When I mute the audio of the clips, I hear the song at a certain volume. See video+song here: music only - YouTube
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I realise that adding the audio on top of each other will result in peaks that are too high, but I don't really care if these peaks get clipped. Most parts of the clip audio have a fairly low volume, but even on those parts the volume of the song stays very very low.
When I decrease the audio levels of the song and the clips to keep the master levels from going into the red zones, the same thing happens. Only the overall audio mix has a lower volume (but still the song volume goes down when played together with the clip audio).
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Audio in Premiere Pro is different--but quite a lot, in many circumstances. I'd recommend going through the help file's audio section to get a better idea of what some of the main controls are: Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 & CS5.5 * Editing Audio
But to answer your question more directly: the Audio Mixer controls track volume, not clip volume. By default, the Audio Mixer isn't set to drop keyframes, so it will affect the level of a track as a whole; check out Recording audio mixes to get more background on setting up the Audio Mixer for automation, so that you can record level changes.
The rubberbands (the yellow lines you're referring to) can be more finitely controlled by holding down the Ctrl/Cmd key as you drag; the values will move in smaller increments, then.
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Hello!
So, my sister has Satellite C870-1EX and she's using new Audio Mixer with intergrated sound card that sends sound through USB cable to the computer (computer recognizes it as external sound card/device). This is the device: http://alesis.com/multimix8usbfx .
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Here's the catch. I used the same equipment with same settings on my computer and ... no hissing noise at all. The thing is, any setting we tried, that hissing noise stays the same, nothing changes.
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A friend of mine has had an similar issue using an DJ Controller : Traktor Kontrol S4
It was not a noise but he noticed some stutter and audio drop-outs.
The problem was the background processes which were running while using the controller.
In order to solve this it was needed to disable all possible devices in device manager like WLan, LAN, Bluetooth, etc
Additionally he had to disable the Antivirus software and firewall which was running in the background.
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Hello!
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Few weeks ago she started noticing a very weird noise (listen to the file attached bellow, I'm talking about that very annoying hissing noise). Firstly, obviously, we tested every single setting on the Audio Mixer. Then, we got new USB cable and swapped it. After that we also took down the whole equipment, checked all cables, untangle them if needed, swapped power source, checked different recording software etc etc. None of that helped. Here's the catch. I used the same equipment with same settings on my computer and ... no hissing noise at all.
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Windows on her laptop were reinstalled some time ago (now she's on Windows 7), but the problem appeared few weeks later.
So, I'm hoping one of you will come up with a (simple) software sollution ... and hopefully we won't need to take her computer back to the shop. However, as far as it seems now, the latest is more likely to happen. Please, tell me I'm wrong
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Track 1_002.zip ‏999 KB

That doesn't appear to be a US model, and this is the forums for Toshiba USA. You may want to contact Toshiba in your region. If it's a European model, you could check the Toshiba Europe forums.
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Each audio track in the mixer has a small chip (tickbox in 1.5??) that you click in order to enable that track for recording. In CS3 it's a little microphone.
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You can still "live mix" your audio with the faders, it's just that those movements get recorded as keyframes on each of the tracks you modify (including, BTW, the Master).
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Usually different applications and programs can access the sound card simultaneously.
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Message Edited by audiodrome on 04-30-2009 06:46 PMMessage Edited by audiodrome on 04-30-2009 07:32 [email protected]

>Re: How do I get my old Surround Mixer recording sources back?p audiodrome,
Is the external Audigy Dri've properly connected? Does the Plat Ex have the rear jacks? If so, can you record from the rear LineIn or mic jack and play sound files through headphones or speakers? What happens when you run the Creative Diagnostic? What does Device Manager show? Otherwise, yes, uninstall and reinstall the Creative software. If your install CD has a repair option, try that first. However, you may find you need to remove the Audigy from your PC, reboot without it, and then reinstall everything. Some Soundblaster cards don't play well with some integrated soundcards, so you may also want to disable the integrated soundcard in BIOS.
Message Edited by Katman on 05-04-2009 :00 AM

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