Backing Up - Super Duper vs DU Restore

This question may seem pathetic - any answer would be appreciated.
Is there any difference in the end result of using DU Restore as a backup method as opposed to Super Duper? They both create bootable backups,right?
Thanks in advance, thanks in arrears and all the best for 2007.
Karina

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