Backing up to encrypted disk image on an external usb drive

I'd like to use an encrypted disk image on an external USB drive as the target for my Time Machine backups, but it seems that Time Machine will only recognize physical external drives, and not mounted disk images in the "Change Disk..." window.
Is it possible to make Time Machine use disk images mounted from an external USB drive?
Thanks.

..."Is it possible to make Time Machine use disk images mounted from an external USB drive?"...
Actually, with a few caveats, it is possible.
Just follow one of the many tutorials on the web for creating an encrypted sparse bundle for use with "TimeMachine" on a network volume (i.e. MACaddress.sparsebundle naming convention, password stored to the system keychain, etc.), and then attach the drive locally and select the drive (not the mounted disk image) as the backup drive. As "Glen Carter" reported in another thread on this site, "TimeMachine" is smart enough to know to mount the disk image for backups when the drive is connected locally.
There are caveats for example, - while backups remain automatic, it appears that actually browsing the backups requires that the disk image be mounted manually first, then accessed via the "Browse Other Time Machine Disks…" option.
One caveat to pay particular attention to is what happens when the drive starts to fill up and space becomes limiting - the processes of deleting expired backups and sparse image compaction may not be well integrated, as discussed here:
http://www.flokru.org/2008/03/15/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-2-possib le-problems/
The article implies that the end result could be deletion of all backups! The article is dated March 2008 but I have no idea whether the issue has been resolved.
Just be advised that it is an unsupported configuration so the extra security will come at the cost of some convenience and potential increase in the chance of data loss. Most users recommend using supplemental backup strategies since the intended purpose of TimeMachine is actually very limited and often misunderstood. Apart from that, it is a rule written in stone that whenever encryption is used, the encrypted items themselves must be backed up.

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    (null)
    (null)
    2008-05-12 18:11:17.194 diskimages-helper[1747:1603] DIHelperAttach: resolving disk image
    DIIsInitialized: returning YESDIIsInitialized: returning YESDIBackingStoreNewWithCFURL: entry with
    file://localhost/Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    enable-keychain: true
    image-path: /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    DIBackingStoreInstantiatorProbe: entry
    file://localhost/Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    enable-keychain: true
    image-path: /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    DIBackingStoreInstantiatorProbe: probing interface 0 CBSDBackingStore
    CBSDBackingStore::newProbe score 100 for file://localhost/Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    DIBackingStoreInstantiatorProbe: probing interface 1 CBundleBackingStore
    CBundleBackingStore::newProbe score -1000 for file://localhost/Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    DIBackingStoreInstantiatorProbe: probing interface 2 CRAMBackingStore
    CRAMBackingStore::probe: scheme "file": not ram: or ramdisk: scheme.
    CRAMBackingStore::probe: score -1000 for file://localhost/Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    DIBackingStoreInstantiatorProbe: probing interface 3 CCarbonBackingStore
    CCarbonBackingStore::newProbe: setting initial rval to +100
    CCarbonBackingStore::newProbe: has resource fork, +100
    CCarbonBackingStore::newProbe score 200 for file://localhost/Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    DIBackingStoreInstantiatorProbe: probing interface 4 CDevBackingStore
    CDevBackingStore::newProbe: not /dev/disk or /dev/rdisk (/Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg).CDevBackingStore::newProbe score -1000 for
    DIBackingStoreInstantiatorProbe: probing interface 5 CCURLBackingStore
    CCURLBackingStore::probe: scheme is
    file
    CCURLBackingStore::probe: not recognized URL scheme.
    CCURLBackingStore::probe: score -1000 for file://localhost/Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    DIBackingStoreInstantiatorProbe: probing interface 6 CVectoredBackingStore
    CVectoredBackingStore::newProbe not "vectored" scheme.
    CVectoredBackingStore::newProbe score -1000 for file://localhost/Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    DIBackingStoreNewWithCFURL: CCarbonBackingStore
    opening /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg setPermission 1723
    CBSDBackingStore::OpenLockFriendly: mapping flags 0x00000002 -> 0x00000026 (locks are MANDATORY)
    (RW lock acquired)
    closing /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg setPermission 1731
    DIBackingStoreNewWithCFURL: instantiator returned 0
    DIBackingStoreNewWithCFURL: returning 0x00000000
    DIResolveURLToBackingStore: processing level 1 encodings.
    DIFileEncodingNewWithBackingStore: entry for encoding level 1
    DIFileEncodingInstantiatorProbe: entry for level 1
    enable-keychain: true
    image-path: /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    DIFileEncodingInstantiatorProbe: probing level 1 interface 0 CMacBinaryEncoding
    CBSDBackingStore::openDataFork: about to open /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    opening /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg openDataFork 1904
    CBSDBackingStore::OpenLockFriendly: mapping flags 0x00000002 -> 0x00000026 (locks are MANDATORY)
    (RW lock acquired)
    closing 3 /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg closeDataFork 1984
    00000000: 656e 6372 6364 7361 0000 0002 0000 0010 | encrcdsa........ |
    00000010: 0000 0005 8000 0001 0000 0100 0000 005b | ...............[ |
    00000020: 0000 00a0 548a 2877 86c1 4f17 877b cf66 | ....T.(w..O..{.f |
    00000030: beea 6066 0000 1000 0000 0002 780e 1734 | ..`f........x..4 |
    00000040: 0000 0000 0001 e000 0000 0001 0000 0001 | ................ |
    00000050: 0000 0000 0000 0060 0000 0000 0000 0268 | .......`.......h |
    00000060: 0000 0067 0000 0000 0000 03e8 0000 0014 | ...g............ |
    00000070: d369 cd83 75e8 bb7c 72e5 020d fdd3 68a9 | .i..u..|r.....h. |
    diskimages-helper: fileNameLength $0000006E
    diskimages-helper: resourceForkLength $60000000
    diskimages-helper: dataForkLength $00000000
    diskimages-helper: commentLength $00006700
    diskimages-helper: MacBinary III signature (0x00000000)
    diskimages-helper: header CRC $0000FDD3
    diskimages-helper: minimum decoder version $0000000D
    diskimages-helper: encoder version $00000002
    no MacBinary III signature - checking for MacBinary I or IIDIFileEncodingInstantiatorProbe: probing level 1 interface 1 CAppleSingleEncoding
    CBSDBackingStore::openDataFork: about to open /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    opening /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg openDataFork 1904
    CBSDBackingStore::OpenLockFriendly: mapping flags 0x00000002 -> 0x00000026 (locks are MANDATORY)
    (RW lock acquired)
    00000000: 7263 6e65 6173 6463 0000 0002 0000 0010 | rcneasdc........ |
    00000010: 0000 0005 8000 0001 0000 0100 0000 005b | ...............[ |
    00000020: 0000 00a0 548a .... .... .... .... .... | ....T........... |
    closing 3 /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg closeDataFork 1984
    CAppleSingleEncoding::isAppleSingleFile loadAppleSingleHeader failed with error 22
    DIFileEncodingInstantiatorProbe: probing level 1 interface 2 CEncryptedEncoding
    CBSDBackingStore::openDataFork: about to open /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    opening /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg openDataFork 1904
    CBSDBackingStore::OpenLockFriendly: mapping flags 0x00000002 -> 0x00000026 (locks are MANDATORY)
    (RW lock acquired)
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: inBackingStore->openDataFork returned 0
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: inBackingStore->getDataForkLength (stub header) returned 0
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: backingStore data fork length is 0x0000000278100000 (10604249088)
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: reading V1 header from offset 0x00000002780FFB04 (10604247812)
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: inBackingStore->readDataFork (stub header) returned 0
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: not recognized as v1 header
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: reading V2 header from offset 0x0000000000000000 (0)
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: inBackingStore->readDataFork (stub header) returned 0
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: reading auth-entry count from offset 0x0000000000000048 (72)
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: inBackingStore->readDataFork (auth entry count) returned 0
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: reading auth table from offset 0x0000000000000048 (72)
    CEncryptedEncoding::copyHeaderInformation: inBackingStore->readDataFork (auth entry count) returned 0
    closing 3 /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg closeDataFork 1984
    max-key-count: 1
    blocksize: 4096
    uuid: 548A2877-86C1-4F17-877B-CF66BEEA6066
    version: 2
    passphrase-count: 1
    private-key-count: 0
    CBSDBackingStore::openDataFork: about to open /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    opening /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg openDataFork 1904
    CBSDBackingStore::OpenLockFriendly: mapping flags 0x00000002 -> 0x00000026 (locks are MANDATORY)
    (RW lock acquired)
    closing 3 /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg closeDataFork 1984
    CBSDBackingStore::openDataFork: about to open /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg
    opening /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg openDataFork 1904
    CBSDBackingStore::OpenLockFriendly: mapping flags 0x00000002 -> 0x00000026 (locks are MANDATORY)
    (RW lock acquired)
    closing 3 /Volumes/kevin/busted.dmg closeDataFork 1984
    diskimages-helper: DiskImages secure mode enabled
    CEncryptedEncoding:unclockCANTHROW: trying to unlock with normal keychain
    UNLOCK: cannot find passphrase in keychain search list.
    UNLOCK: SessionGetInfo returned 0
    UNLOCK: sessionHasGraphicAccess
    UNLOCK: sessionHasTTY
    UNLOCK: sessionWasInitialized
    UNLOCK: using TTY to prompt for passphrase
    Enter password to access "busted.dmg":
    unlockCoreFromTTY: passphrase is wrong
    DIFileEncodingNewWithBackingStore: returning 0x00000050
    DIResolveURLToBackingStore: level 1 encoding match failed. 80.
    DIResolveURLToDiskImage: resolving backing store/file encoding failed. 80.
    status proc called: attach
    error code: 80
    status proc called: cleanup
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.081 diskimages-helper[1747:1603] DIHelperAttach performOperation: returning 80
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.082 diskimages-helper[1747:1603] -decrementBackgroundThreadCount: _backgroundThreadCount is now 0.
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.082 diskimages-helper[1747:10b] DIHelper reportresults: reporting {
    payload = {
    "result-code" = 80;
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.083 hdiutil[1745:1c03] reportResultsToFramework: proxy has finished operation
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.084 hdiutil[1745:1c03] reportResultsToFramework: results are: {
    payload = {
    "result-code" = 80;
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.084 hdiutil[1745:1c03] reportResultsToFramework: _threadResultsError is 80
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.085 hdiutil[1745:1c03] reportResultsToFramework: disconnecting from helper.
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.186 hdiutil[1745:1c03] disconnectFromHelper: removing observers
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.187 hdiutil[1745:1c03] disconnectFromHelper: terminating proxy
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.189 diskimages-helper[1747:10b] DIHelper: terminateHelper: entry.
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.190 hdiutil[1745:1c03] disconnectFromHelper: terminated proxy
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.290 diskimages-helper[1747:10b] -DIHelperAgentMaster terminateUIAgentConnection.
    DIHLDiskImageAttach() returned 80
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.293 diskimages-helper[1747:10b] DIHelper dealloc.
    2008-05-12 18:11:41.294 diskimages-helper[1747:10b] -DIHelperAgentMaster terminateUIAgentConnection.
    hdiutil: attach failed - Authentication error
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