Backup runtime to long

Hello,
we´ve an erp system with 2,5 TB and db2 version 9.5.0004. We´re using legato networker for the backup with backup server initiated backups to tape. The database server is an sun fire v890 with solaris 10 zones 64GB ram and 8x1800 Sparc IV +
Our actuell runtime is 19 hours in all kind of start call with compress or without compress, compression by database and compression by legato.
In every version I´ve tested I´m running out in the main production time with negativ impact in dialog answer time.
Regards
Olaf

Hi Olaf,
There are many things that could affect the backup time, you will have to find out which one is the bottelneck. I'd recommend you take a look at this white paper:
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/80e61772-e471-2c10-60b1-9529b69b50c5
Have you tried to backup directly to disk? How did that compare to backing up to Legato?
Do you have a single (or a few) tablespace that is extremely large? If so, you need to consider moving large tables out to a separate tablespace (data class).
- Patrick

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3. Are there other reasons it could take 60 hours to do an initial backup of 160 gig of stuff? (I just downloaded and installed TimeMachineBuddy; but Time Machine is still turned off.)
4. Is it safe and recommended for me to add a Carbon Copy Clone to the "Time Machine Backups" drive that has the 1/3 partial backup? I planned to use the Seagate for the clone, but now I figure I have to keep those backups around until the fresh backup can be completed, which may take forever.
If I haven't asked the "right" question to solve this almost unworkable 60 hours of churning for one backup, please say what I need to hear. If useful, I will be happy to provide more info. Willing to adjust behavior to be a good forum member.
Chuck M

unklchuk wrote:
Hi. My Time Machine backup was taking forever. 16 continuous hours has backed up less than 60gig of 160gig.
In looking for reasons for slowness, I added the whole drive to the Spotlight privacy list. It's a new WD My Book Home Edition Firewire 400 (et al) drive, fresh out of the box. 500gig. Working with a MacBook Pro 13.3 inch, and Snow Leopard 6.1. Time Machine had said the out-of-the-box drive was not formatted correctly, so I let it format the drive as it wished.
TM doesn't always do it correctly. See item #C1 of the Time Machine - Troubleshooting *User Tip* at the top of this forum. If it's not correct, re-format it properly.
1. I stopped the backup this morning from the icon in the menu bar so I could work at normal speed. Turned off Time Machine. Can it be resumed in place by turning TM back on?
Yes. But of course, if you have to reformat, TM will have to start over.
2. I don't anticipate needing to keep (and perhaps not having the EHD room for) a month's worth of back-ups. If I can, I'll set that at 10 days or two weeks - but I suspect that's not user adjustable.
Correct. TM will automatically delete the oldest backups when it needs room for new ones (unless you have the +Warn when old backups are deleted+ box checked). TM will keep one backup per week if there's room; one per day (the first) for a month; all others will be deleted after 24 hours.
If one keeps the same basic system install, the TM backups probably don't take up a huge amount of space. But situations like the Epson scanner driver trouble may well force full system reinstalls and I won't have room for the combination of old and new.
3. Are there other reasons it could take 60 hours to do an initial backup of 160 gig of stuff? (I just downloaded and installed TimeMachineBuddy; but Time Machine is still turned off.)
Yes. See item #D2 in the Troubleshooting Tip.
4. Is it safe and recommended for me to add a Carbon Copy Clone to the "Time Machine Backups" drive that has the 1/3 partial backup? I planned to use the Seagate for the clone, but now I figure I have to keep those backups around until the fresh backup can be completed, which may take forever.
Yes, but in a separate partition, as long as both are large enough. TM needs 2-3 times the space of the data it's backing-up, so you should have at least 320 gb for it; since a 500 gb drive is really only 465, that leaves 145 for the second partition, which isn't large enough.
Based on your 160 gb used on your internal HD, you probably could, in a pinch, make the first partition only 280 gb for TM, the second 185 for the clone (space used + 15%).
Then once you have a separate drive for the clone, you can delete the second partition from the TM drive and expand the first one to fill most or all of the rest of it.

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