Basic LabVIEW example or tutorial for motor control beginner?

Hello,
I'd like to control two brushless servo motors using LabVIEW. I've got a PXI7358 controller card and a Copley amplifier. I've read the Getting Started tutorial but otherwise I am new to LabVIEW. I'm looking for a good basic VI and/or a tutorial about how to get started programming the motion of these motors with LabVIEW.
Thanks,
Matthew

Hi, I'm not sure whether this is the right place for asking this question or not and if not, then please guide me to the right place for asking such question. Thanks.
I have a stepper motor with the Vector Network Analyzer Anritsu MS4623B. I got it up and running with the LabWindows/CVI. I need to sync the motion of the stepper motor with my data acquisition. Basically, I have to acquire the data in a way that in the start the motor will come back to home position wherever it was and then I want to move it to the specific position to do the measurements (For Example, I want to measure the 40 GHz channel between 1m to 3m movement of a stepper motor on a linear positioning system (ball-screw)). I've interfaced the VNA with the PC using LabWindows/CVI and I've controlled the clockwise and anti-clockwise movements of the stepper motor using LabWindows/CVI but I'm unable to sync the system in a way that whenever I run the code, the motor will run back to the home position and then move to a specific measurement start position and move till the end position and in between do the increment and stop and acquire the data. Is there any one to help me please? It's really urgent please and I'm doing this thing first time so please guide me in a proper way. I shall really apprecaite that and will be highly obliged with you. Thanks for your time and concern.
Thanks and Regards.
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My name is Sasi. I am a BME grad student working on my thesis topic of evaluating spine implants for low back pain. For this I am building a test machine that would apply pure moments to a spine specimen. I am using LabVIEW 8.5 to implement control of a brushless AC servo motor. My requirement is,
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Step 6: Once again when torque reaches -10 Nm, i.e. 0 V, the motor should stop.
Step 7: Repeat 'Step 2' to 'Step 6' 3 times.
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Till now I have managed to get the motor to move forward n backward @ a desired vel, accl, n deceleration for 3 cycles. I am attaching my code. I am having problem inserting the code for reading DAQmx amidst all this. Can anyone help me out.
Thnks,
Sasi.
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Hi Sasidhar,
I took a look at your problem and I think I have a workable solution for you. I definitely agree with Lynn's suggestion of using parallel loops. This will allow the DAQmx portion to run uninhibited by the motion portion, and vice versa. Plus, you only need to iterate the motion loop whenever the voltage level crosses a threshold. So, by iterating on the motion code in the same loop that you are iterating on DAQmx code, you are essentially wasting processor.
I created a VI that should do what you are wanting. I tested it out myself and it works great. You might have a tweak a few things to apply to your system (like motion board ID and DAQmx physical channel, etc.). I used two parallel loops and event-based programming. Basically the motion loop starts the motor spinning at the specified velocity. Once the motor is spinning, it waits for the DAQmx loop to tell it that the voltage value has crossed the threshold. When the voltage value exceeds the maximum threshold (which I set to a value slightly less than 10 to allow for jitter and saturation), the DAQmx loop signals the motion loop that it can finish its iteration. The motion loop stops the motion, reverses the direction, and starts the motion again. Once motion has started, it again waits for the DAQmx loop to tell it that a threshold has occurred, but this time, it is looking for a minimum threshold. I used "Occurrences" to implement the event-based programming in LabVIEW.
I have commented the code rather thouroughly, so hopefully the comments will answer any remaining questions. The benefit of using event-based programming for this is that you save processor time, and your motion is more closely synchonized with the DAQmx. Instead of iterating the motion loop as fast as you can, checking for updates each time, you just pause it, and wait for the other loop to tell you when to start up again. In the mean time, the processor doesn't have to worry about iterating that loop over and over again. Also, when the occurrence does occur, you catch it immediately, instead of having to wait until the next iteration. Thus, you are more closely synchronized with the DAQmx portion of the code.
I hope this will help you. Please post back if you have any questions about the code or its implementation. Good Luck!
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FPGA programming for motor control using free downloadable IP cores for PWM and Quadrature encoder interfacing

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Hi, my name is Ansel. I am working on a project to set up an NI ELVIS with the Quanser DC Motor Control Trainer board and create a few very simple experiments demonstrating basic mechatronic functions.
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Ansel,
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