Batch management returns

hi,
sap gurus,
what happens when a product under batch management
returns happens.
how should we handle it.
regards,
balaji.t
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Dear balaji
Pl go through the Building Block which will help you
[Batch Recall|http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/500/HTML/J61_BatchRecall_EN_KO.htm]
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

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Batch management and returns

Hi we are a soft drink manufacturer, we have batch management for raw materials but also need it for finished goods. OK so no problem works well so far. However we do send out trucks with product on board, those truck may not sell all of the product on the truck that day so we need to bring partial pallets / batches back to the warehouse. In SAP how do we do the batch management on partial pallets or batches. It is not convenient to create a new batch for one case of soft drinks or maintain an existing batch for one case. Anyone have any thoughts on how to manage this process?
Looking forward to reading your thoughts on this.
Regards,

Hi Mario, I've been reading up on documentary batches and a few questions if you are able to answer.
The information say
You can enter document batches in the following process steps:
u2022 Goods receipt for external procurement
u2022 Goods receipt for subcontracting
u2022 Goods issue for subcontracting
u2022 Goods receipt from production
u2022 Goods issue to production
u2022 Picking delivery to customer
Doesn't mention bringing the product back into stock .... is this supported
And
No functions in batch status management (in other words, no stock postings take place when the batch status changes
So will docuementary batches support my scenario where product is loaded onto a truck partially sold then returned to warehouse to be loaded again the next day?
Can you hightlight the steps to complete this process if possible?
Thanks

WM-Batch management & vendor godds returning process

Hi All,
1.Please explain the process the auto batch picking for 201 and 261 movement types .I have configure complete batch management settings in both invemtory and wm level but auto batch is not picking when confirmaing the production order .As per business process the batch has to pick automatically via FIFO basis.Is ther e is any OSS note
2.What is the return delivery process to vendor.When i am returning material to vendor ,the outbound delivery is created and transfer ortder is creating sucessfully ,but at the time of PGI the system is displaying an error message as " goods receipt is not possible with this document ype.The document type i am using is correct speciaaly created and use for only for returns .What are the configurations required .The 601 movement type si configured for the warehouse type.
Thanks
hari prasad

You have to setup batch search strategy for inventory managment, and its condition records, to enable SAP to search and find a batch record.
follow the link and check the knots on the left menu
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/25/283be44f7811d18a150000e816ae6e/frameset.htm

Unable to post return delivery whne the input material is batch managed

Hi,
While clearing the Subcontract GRN where the input material is batch managed, unable to put return delviery and the system throws error and unable to complete quantity posting.
Please guide me.
Regards,
RR Gopalan

This is caused due to some technical restrictions in QM.
When the reverse movement is being posted through QM process, the goods movement is being created in the background and it is being posted without reference to a existing material document. That is the system behaves as if you create a return delivery via MB01. In this case, the system cannot determine the batch number. As the reverse is created in the background and the components are determined internally and the batch cannot be passed over from the QM transaction. To prevent postings and avoid unnecessary inconsistencies in stocks,system will issue the error message.
Workaround:
The message M7389 is configurable. Hence please check in transcation OMCQ and set this as warning message. This would allow you to post the return delivery, But the problem is the batch nubmer would be wrong. So, You can define the corret batch number in the user-ext MBCFC010, it's MM related, You'd better to work with your MM colleagues.
Best Regards,

Batch Management Level

Hi all,
Batch management drives us difficulty, all finished goods have a batch number in our system. But cause of this our system grows fastly and process management is so difficult. We think about cancelling batch management and use serial number management for product trace. But one of my friends offers me for managing batches as production order level. This means each production order (material differs) will have batch number and at trace the materials with serial number.
I want to know the effects of batch level to the system. For example it's useful to cancel batch management for system growth. Or have we use batch management at one level like production order level? For CO side, it's useful for using batches as production level or completely cancel batch management ?
Thanks,

>
techmaster wrote:
> Hi all,
> Batch management drives us difficulty, all finished goods have a batch number in our system. But cause of this our system grows fastly and process management is so difficult. We think about cancelling batch management and use serial number management for product trace. But one of my friends offers me for managing batches as production order level. This means each production order (material differs) will have batch number and at trace the materials with serial number.
>
> I want to know the effects of batch level to the system. For example it's useful to cancel batch management for system growth. Or have we use batch management at one level like production order level? For CO side, it's useful for using batches as production level or completely cancel batch management ?
>
> Thanks,
It appears that you are referirng to an organization which follows discrete manufacturing techniques, where the individual finished item needs to be uniquely identifiable, which is probably satisfied by batches. Your concern of batch numbers getting exhausted is pertitent, given the limitation of 10 character for the batch number.
If I try to compare the pros and cons of serial numbers vis a vis batch numbers, here are the points
- Batch numbers have the obvious limitation of 10 characters, serial numbers allow 18
- Batches are normally used in process industry (pharma, food etc), serial numbers are linked to equipments, and have the functionality to check the status at the client level (within which plant/sloc, with customer etc)
- Tracing the history of a serial number becomes easier (particularly useful in case of customer returns / repairs)
- Serial numbers are unique, you can have multiple units of a particular batch.
About the question of getting rid of batches altogether, I feel that when serial numbers are present, batches will only lead to additional entry in all movements. Moreover, they will only be redundant, unless you plan to group a few items (serial numbers) into a single batch.
From the CO side, I feel that the production order is the CO object, and hence all costs are accumulated against the order. I do not think having a batch will help from the CO perspective.
Regards,
Aroop

Can you please help me resolve this issue on Batch Management Completion. "Cannot Add row without complete selection of batch number." Message 29-77

'Another user or another operation modified data, to continue open the window again ' Inventory Transaction Log' (OITL)(ODBC-2039) (Message 131-183). If I click again on add I get the following message : 'Cannot add row without complete selection of Batch / Serial Nos. [Message-29-77]
Path:
Inventory -> Item Management -> Batches -> Batch Management - Complete form.
Before this I use Return Components on Receipts from Production as I am mistakenly issued it more than what was needed.
Were anyone be able to explain why it worked for certain items and not for others? I have successfully done “return components with some batches"

Hi Nagarajan,
I'm one of colleague of caterine, we only accessing the batch management-complete window, no other window is open, still the error occurs; see image below
Before that error occurs(in image); first error we encounter was batch number is already exist, then upon click add another person modified the window; but we tried to restore the db then try to add the batch number in different transaction like SI 1658(Goods Issue), and it is okay.. but on the SI 50003 which is Receipt from production we can't add it.
Hope you can help us.
Regards,
Lean

To understand Batch Management configuration behavior

Hi all,
I'm attempting to activate and configure batch management and I encounter several system behavior within SPRO.
1. Under logistics General -> Batch Management -> Specify Batch Level and Activate Status Management, I get the following menu items: Batch level, Batch status management, Plants with batch status management. To start off with, I proceed to Batch level and select Batch unique at plant level and save. Next thing I know, the menu item Batch status management becomes inactive mode, hence unable to access this function to activate the batch management. When I return to menu item Batch level and change Batch unique at material level and save, the menu item for Batch status management returns to active mode.
Question: Is there an explanation for such behavior? If the menu item for batch status management becomes inactive mode each time I select the Batch unique at plant level, how do I activate Batch Management in SAP system?
2. I understand there's another configuration under logistics General -> Batch Management -> Batch Valuation -> Update Standard Characteristics is required to be performed. When I execute this configuration, the prompt says: "Do you want the standard features in batch management to be updated?". I clicked yes and there's a background job running for a while. Once the job finishes, the log shows a couple of errors or failures.
Question: Am I doing things right?
Thanks.
Edited by: Steven Khoo on May 27, 2011 4:54 AM

I am getting ready to active Batch status management on our client. I do not need to change our Batch Level, but in reading, my understanding is that the first thing you need to do after changing the batch level in SPRO is to run the Batch Level -> conversion routine, that is in the same menu. Once that is done, I'm guessing that the ability to activate the status management will again be available.
Once you active the batch status management, you need to run the Batch status management -> conversion routine for it to take effect.

Cost(vprs) of free goods with batch managment

Dear Gurus,
I have a problem ahout free goods with batch management.
Cost(VPRS) is not accumulated in billing(free goods is not relevant for billing).
My configurations are shown as below:
Ordered goods (and batch) item category :zta1(copied from tan)
Free goods (and batch) item category :zann (copied from tann) pricing:B ;not relevant for billing;dermination cost:X
copy control(from delivery to billing):
ztan: accumulation cost :X
If I use the material without batch management,Cost of free goods(without batch) is accumulated to main item(ordered goods).
So, what can I do?
Thanks and Best Regards,
Lykin Kan

Hi,
These notes are useful:
SAP Note 1365939 - VPRS logic and Customizing settings in SD
SAP Note 547570 - FAQ: VPRS in pricing
If you have the problem in the transfer from SD conditions to CO-PA, check if you transfer only invoices to COPA, if you don't invoice the deliveries of free goods, then you don't transfer this 'sales' or costs of 'gifts' to COPA. You can check the customizing of COPA in tcode ORKE (IMG for COPA). SAP Note 74486 - INFO: Overview of consulting notes for CO-PA is a good summary about this issue.
I hope this helps you
Regards,
Eduardo
PD: I forgot SAP Note Number 33968 SD/CO-PA: Characteristics from sales doc tables
Edited by: E_Hinojosa on Sep 10, 2010 9:44 AM

Error while importing N Accounts to 1 Address with UCM Batch Manager

Hi,
I got a problem with importing Accounts using the UCM Batch Manager. Previous steps were loading the EIM Tables EIM_UCM_ORG and EIM_UCM_ADRPER. To associate addresses I used the column EIM_UCM_ADRPER.PAR_UCM_ACCNT_UID. No errors occured during an Enterprise Integration Mgr jobs to load the data into SDH tables.
The error described below occurs if I have N Accounts using one Address. Example:
h5. Account Name --> City --> Postal Code --> State --> Street
Account #1 --- Munich --- 80331 --- N/A --- Some Street 1
Account #2 --- Munich --- 80331 --- N/A --- Some Street 1
h5. If I try to get the Accounts into the Base tables using the UCM Batch Manager I get the following message from the log file:
ObjMgrBusCompLog     Error     1     000003084c571160:0     2010-08-03 19:11:14     (odbccon.cpp (2097)) SBL-DBC-00111: An error has occurred writing to a record.
Please continue or ask your systems administrator to check your application configuration if the problem persists.
DBCLog     DBCLogError     1     000003084c571160:0     2010-08-03 19:11:14     SQLError: [23000],[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Cannot insert duplicate key row in object 'dbo.S_ADDR_PER'-Objekt with unique index 'S_ADDR_PER_U1'.
DBCLog     DBCLogError     1     000003084c571160:0     2010-08-03 19:11:14     SQLError: [01000],[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]The statement has been terminated.
ObjMgrBusCompLog     Error     1     000003084c571160:0     2010-08-03 19:11:14     (sqlobj.cpp (43735)) SBL-DAT-00381: A record that contains identical values to the record you have created already exists.
If you would like to enter a new record, please ensure that the field values are unique.
ObjMgrLog     Error     1     000003084c571160:0     2010-08-03 19:11:14     (adptutils.cpp (5715)) SBL-EAI-04381: For instance of Integration Component 'Account_Business Address', using user key '[City] = "Munich" AND [Postal Code] = "80331" AND [State] = "N/A" AND [Street Address] = "Some Street 1"', a record with identical values already exists in the Siebel database.
Please ensure that the field values in the input message are unique.
EAISiebAdpt     EAISiebAdptErr     1     000003084c571160:0     2010-08-03 19:11:15     [0] For instance of Integration Component 'Account_Business Address', using user key '[City] = "Munich" AND [Postal Code] = "80331" AND [State] = "N/A" AND [Street Address] = "Some Street 1"', a record with identical values already exists in the Siebel database.
Please ensure that the field values in the input message are unique.(SBL-EAI-04381) (0x75017d)
h5. Result:
Account #1 gets inserted with Record Type: "Source-Insert"
Account #2 will not be imported and gets Record Type: "Incomplete"
Does anyone know how to handle this problem?
Many Thanks
Sebastian
Edited by: user13098670 on 04.08.2010 06:34

I have selected the option
Add new metadata and replace existing objetcs. But it is not importing. Also I tried other options like
1. deleting the existing mapping and tried.
2. Putting the mapping in recycle bin and try.
3. Take it from recycle bin.Even during taking it from recycle it is giving me the following error .
Error occurred importing mapping
<DWH_CMMDTY_INVC_FACT_MAP/DWH_CMMDTY_INVC_FACT_MAP>
(at line 141).
Detailed Error Message:
API2014: Internal Error: Error in createStage:
In above all cases it is giving me the error.
Could you please help?

Free Goods with Batch Management Activated !!!

Hi Gurus,
I have defined a free goods master data for material on which batch is activated. I have defined the it as with a min of 10 qty 1 free good will be delivered as exclusive item
Now as the batch management is active and each batch has 1 qty in it. Now in order to deliver 1 free good first i have to enter 10 line item of the same material and after the 11 th line system should generate 1 free good item. But this is not happening is there any standard configuration required for this process
Early reply will be awarded accordingly.
Thanks in advance
Edited by: Abaper Abaper on Jul 10, 2008 12:31 PM
Edited by: Abaper Abaper on Jul 10, 2008 12:32 PM

Hi Abaper,
Free Goods Determination follows the condition technique and hence you should have one condition type assigned to it one access sequence and then maintain the condition type (NA00) in a Free Goods Determination Procedure (NA0000).
Then assign this procedure to your permitted sales area and maintain the free goods determination master data (VBN1).
Also Check the settings of Item Category Assignment
It should be ORNORMFREE+TAN -
> TANN.
By this settings your free goods should work.
Reward if it helps you
Regards
Harsh

VPRS with Free Goods and Batch Management

Dear Experts,
I have a problem on the products billing with Free Goods.
I will explain this, before the implementation of Batch Management (with batch split) the billing document show the condition VPRS on the main item (TAN) and the free goods item (TANN).
Now, when the Batch Management was up, the condition VPRS disappeared on the TANN item, I checked the order and it does shows the VPRS conditions. When i check the conditions on the billing document it shows me the following message when i check the VPRS condition
Condition ignored (requirement 004 not fulfilled)
Then I tried to debug the price determination and i realized that only on the TANN position the field komp-evrwr (price determination on the item category) is not 'X'.
Aditionally i can mention thar the batch split item category is defined as YG05.
Actually i only managed to show the cumulated VPRS cost on the main item.
Please someone say to me if this correct or there is a way to put the VPRS on the free goods item.
Javier Sandoval Vera
Ecuador

Hi Javier,
what do you do with the VPRS in your calculation- system ?
If you need i, you delete the requirement 004 in your calculation -system.
on the other hand, you can change TANN to komp-evrwr (price determination on the item category) is 'X'. Then you have to add an 100% rabate for TANN and the resukt will be free good.
Hans

Free Goods (With Batch Management)

Hi Gurus,
I have defined a fee goods master data for material on which batch is activated. I have defined the it as with a min of 10 qty 1 free good will be delivered as exclusive item
Now as the batch management is active and each batch has 1 qty in it. Now in order delivery 1 free good first i have to enter 10 line item of the same material but after the 11 th line system should generate 1 free good item. But this is not happening is there any standard configuration required for this process
Early reply will be awarded accordingly.
Thanks in advance

Free goods is determined per sales order item. The system does not take the sum of more items. You have to insert the quantity on one item.
/Torben

Can we use batch management in repetitive manufacturing?

Can we use batch management in repetitive manufacturing?
If not, can we use classification or something else?
or what else options we have.
Thnx!

why not?
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/25/283c594f7811d18a150000e816ae6e/frameset.htm

Inventory Audit Report - Not followed FIFO and Batch management

I have created an Item say XYZ, with Batch management and valuation methode FIFO.
Then I have created a batch say 1 with posting of opening balance transaction with posting date as 1st April 2009.
Now when I post an A/R Invoice with posting date as 19th May 2009 in which I have selected above batch.
I have also posted some more purchase transaction for same item before 19th May 2009 that is the date of sales invoice.
Now when I see Inventory Audit Report, system has not picked up the cost column as per Batch selection in A/R Invoice, and also not as per FIFO, but it has followed the system date of transaction for deriving cost as per FIFO.
Can anybody throw light on this ?
BR
Samir Gandhi

Dear Samir Gandhi,
Irrespective of posting date you use for document posting, with FIFO Method system will arrange all the inventory posting in layers with First inventory posting will form the base for first inventory movement out and so on
Example:
1st Entry:(Opening Balances)
posting date : 01/04/09    Item : XYZ    quantity : 5   Unit cost price : 100
2nd Entry: Purchase
posting date : 01/05/09    Item : XYZ    quantity : 5   Unit cost price : 105
3rd Entry: Purchase
posting date :25/04/09    Item : XYZ    quantity : 5   Unit cost price : 90
Layers created :
1.    Item : XYZ    quantity : 5   Unit cost price : 100
2.     Item : XYZ    quantity : 5   Unit cost price : 105
3.     Item : XYZ    quantity : 5   Unit cost price : 90
4th Entry : Sales
Item : XYZ    quantity : 8
So here cost of goods sold will be : ( 5x100)+ ( 3x105) = 815
and it wont be ( 5x100)+ ( 3x90) =770 if that's what you are expecting
Regards,
Mukesh

Specific Identification Cost for batch managed items (Follow-Up from P2P)

Specific Identification Cost method is used for serial and batch managed item. Using this method, the outbound cost of such items would be the original cost of specific goods, which can be determined according to the serial or batch number of that item.
Business One allows the user to receive batch managed items with a batch number that already exists in the DB. Its possible that the received quantity is added to on-hand quantity in the warehouse. In such case, the quantity on-hand of that batch and the received quantity may have different costs.
What should be the system behavior in such case:
1. Block receipts to the same batch with different costs.
2. Write the difference to a price difference account, as done in Standard Cost method.
3. Manage the batch cost with Moving Average method.
This thread is continuation from 'Specific Identification Cost for batch managed Items' <a href="http://p2p.sap.com/businessoneforum?type=join&login=1&uid=41FB661A76CED536C825C4E2B6FF4397&cid=91&go=z37225">discussion</a> in P2P SAP Business One Forum (Product Development Collaboration).
Previous discussion on P2P is summarized in the attached file.

Hi Peter,
This is a very important functionality that you are describing here. For example, in the Steel industry, it could be extremely useful to cost by batch or serial number.
If you receive a batch that already exists in the system and if the costing method for the product is moving average, then teh cost of the batch should be calculated based on the moving average as well.
If the costing method is standard, then the cost should go in a variance account.
If the costing method is FIFO, then it is a getting trickier...
Regards,
Vincent

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