Big band scoring in Logic

Has anyone had any success writing for a big band in logic and then printing out the parts with a satisfactory result?
I know that Logic can do it, but just wondering if it works well enough for a professional level project
Thanks

I've done full orchestra scores in Logic. I doesn't have the look of good Sibelius or Finale, but if all the parts are already in, sometimes it is faster. The notation is fine and readable - much better than a lot of the handwritten charts I have seen over the years. If you need falls, shakes, scoops, graphic wah wahs and other stuff, you might need a real notation program (it might be there, I never looked for that stuff).
Goodluck.
Paul

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Hello. I've mostly used Jam Packs with Logic, I'm new to using another player within Logic, Kontakt is what comes with Garritan Jazz and Big Band. The issue I'm having is when you load a multi/ensemble from Kontakt into Logic, I can't seem to control the volumes separately. It seems to show up in the Logic mixer as "Inst 1" -- is this making sense? Sometimes I'm confused by all the tabs/choices in the mixer section too...but that's probably a different issue. Anyway, if you have any thoughts, I'd love to hear them. Thanks. Bob

The bottom line is that has been one of Logic's most glaring "missing features" for years, in my book.
The problem stems from the fact that Logic can't separate the channels (or 'channelize') the volume and pan controls for the individual MIDI channels of a multitimbral virtual instrument. By contrast, Logic has no problem doing this with external MIDI modules. And other DAW's - I'm told - have no problem separating the volume commands for individual channels of a virtual instrument. But Logic "Pro" still can not.
So you have to set up a bunch of virtual 'aux' channels, route the various VI channels to the separate AUX's, then control or automate the volume of those aux channels separately from the 'master' VI. Personally I can't believe people don't complain more about what a needlessly awkward workaround this is, all to achieve the same basic functionality we've had in MIDI for almost 20 years now .
But that's the way it's always been done on Logic, and from the looks of it, there's no reason to expect it to change anytime soon.
Search the forums (or Kontakt's manual or Garritan's site) for info on how to set up numerous auxiliary outs, and that should get you going. There are also numerous tutorials and how-to's on this forum and others, which you can probably find if you search "multitimbral aux".
Lastly, some folks resort to automating volumes within the plugins, ie. adjusting the channel volume sliders on Kontakt's internal mixer while the sequence runs, then editing that automation later in Logic. Again, I think it's a kludgey workaround. But Kludgey Workarounds have always been a big part of the Logic Pro 'experience!'
Enjoy.

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Anyone using the Garritan Jazz & Big Band Kontakt Plugins inside of Logic 8? If so have you run into any problems...especially memory problems. And how much ram are you running Logic 8 with in this situation? Your minimum ram requirements?
Thanks for answering...John
PS And how does your JAAB score work out in the Logic 8 Score Editor?

I'm working just fine with both the GPO and JABB and Logic 8.01. I use the multi-instruments option which seems to help save RAM usage. This is in contrast to loading up each instrument individually with single instances of either the Kontakt 2 or the Kontakt 2 Player (which "powers" JABB and GPO). It seems like when I (and others) load up individual instances of Kontakt, RAM usage is significally increased.
There's been a number of discussions here (and on other Apple support bulletin boards) regarding this issue. The discussions are all worth the read if you have the time. However, utilizing the Multi-Instrument function seems to significantly keep down RAM usage (for me, anyway).
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Best Logic Big Band?

I am trying to find a sweet collection of jazz big band instruments for the EXS24; can anyone here recommend anything? All I've found of a specific collection is Garritan's which uses N.I. Kontact Player, and I don't wanna use Kontact! I don't! I DON'T! <dropping to the floor and turning blue>

For what its worth, I've seem to remember reading favourable reviews of First Call Horns - not sure about Captain Beefheart though!
Collections like this tend to include little bits that might be useful in a general way - if you have Melodyne you can create new things from them though..
It shouldn't be too difficult to find bits of solo avante garde sax on existing recordings that you could sample and re-arrange (yeah, I know....)

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I have been beta testing Garritan's Marching and Big Band Instruments on my Intel iMac using GarageBand 3. Thought you all might like to hear a piece I came up with. Note: I did not do much in the way of plunger muting (though I could have). I just put this together in a few of hours. There is about 16 tracks. Three of them (piano, Jazz Bass, and Pop Drum)are GarageBand-native.
http://schneb.googlepages.com/music8

The bottom line is that has been one of Logic's most glaring "missing features" for years, in my book.
The problem stems from the fact that Logic can't separate the channels (or 'channelize') the volume and pan controls for the individual MIDI channels of a multitimbral virtual instrument. By contrast, Logic has no problem doing this with external MIDI modules. And other DAW's - I'm told - have no problem separating the volume commands for individual channels of a virtual instrument. But Logic "Pro" still can not.
So you have to set up a bunch of virtual 'aux' channels, route the various VI channels to the separate AUX's, then control or automate the volume of those aux channels separately from the 'master' VI. Personally I can't believe people don't complain more about what a needlessly awkward workaround this is, all to achieve the same basic functionality we've had in MIDI for almost 20 years now .
But that's the way it's always been done on Logic, and from the looks of it, there's no reason to expect it to change anytime soon.
Search the forums (or Kontakt's manual or Garritan's site) for info on how to set up numerous auxiliary outs, and that should get you going. There are also numerous tutorials and how-to's on this forum and others, which you can probably find if you search "multitimbral aux".
Lastly, some folks resort to automating volumes within the plugins, ie. adjusting the channel volume sliders on Kontakt's internal mixer while the sequence runs, then editing that automation later in Logic. Again, I think it's a kludgey workaround. But Kludgey Workarounds have always been a big part of the Logic Pro 'experience!'
Enjoy.

Arranging Big Band Charts with Score Editor

Ahhh, the score editor is so untuitive. The way it's programmed, so that you have to space the note just right to get the desired result. And sometimes ya gotta switch the notes and try again and then retry... Ayayayaya. Well, anyways, my question is: Is there a way I can prefrerize the score editor so that the notes/rests I select are put in, and that I can make my own ties (the ties are reallly frusturating). I'm arranging a chart for my big band, so.... go Logic!
Cheers!
-Tad-

Have partially answered my own question- have worked out how to change note sizes to the smaller cue-type display, not quite sure how to designate them non-playing though still appearing in the score though.

Garritan Jazz & Big Band 3rd Edition

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Jack Ball wrote:
No Big Band Folder present and I have looked buc annot find any Big Band Radio Stations available. Can we submit requests for a certain kind of music or station to be added to the iTunes radio server?
I wouldn't bother. That radio listing is only intended as a sample listing and has never been updated.

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Getting good live horn sounds such as trills on trumpet and sax seems impossible without a live player. Any advice of sample libraries to use with EXS?
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As a horn player for 25 years, I have found this to be the most poorly represented area for samples that don't consist of licks and riffs. The best Big Band sounds I've heard to date is Garriton Jazz and Big Band.
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I've been thinking about getting logic express, but I wanted to try the trail version first. When I try to open any of my garageband songs in logic it says, "Damaged Song or not a logic express song! Damaged songs might create problems and crashes!" After that box it says, "Rad Error! This is not a Logic Express song!" I would appreciate any advice on how I might fix this problem.

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When you install(ed) Kontakt you have (had) the option to do a custom install. Do so, and install the AU plugin.
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