BOOTABLE Firewire on Intel iMac - my story, need answers...

Just got the new Intel iMac in today. Need to be able to boot from a Firewire drive. Connected FW drive, it shows up on desktop. Erased using Disk Utility (the version that came installed on the Intel iMac). Re-booted from the iMac system DVD. When it gets to the screen to choose which drive to install on, it won't allow me to install on the FW drive. When I click on the FW drive icon, I get this message:
"You cannot install Mac OS X on this volume. Mac OS X cannot start up from this volume."
I've tried different drives, and different FW cases. It states in the manual that came with the iMac that one of the uses of the Firewire ports is to allow booting the iMac from an external hard drive. So, what's the trick? Does it require a certain type of FW case, or drive, or firmware, or formatting? I'll keep testing, but if anyone knows the answer, HELP! Thanks.
BTW, I haven't done much on the iMac yet, but the speed in just launching programs is AWESOME! Apps launched and on the screen in less that one bounce in the Dock!

Tallan - I've tried Mac OS Extended, Extended (Journaled), Extended (case-sensitive), and Extended (case-sensitive, Journaled). And I've tried all those with the OS 9 driver installation on and off.
I'm going to try doing a bootable back-up using Synchronize Pro, which is what I've used for a long time on previous Macs. But there should still be a way to do a clean install from the original DVD.
Glorfindeal - what "special boot partition" are you talking about? Where is it? How do you do it?
Thanks for the feedback....

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Confused, and want to get this right. THANKS!

If you want to install OS X freshly to the drive then you need it to be partitioned using GUID to boot an Intel Mac. However, if you clone an existing Intel system to the drive then the drive can be partitioned using APM. However, an Intel version of OS X cannot be used to boot a PPC Mac. To accomplish what you want you need to partition the drive into two volumes - one will hold the clone of your Intel Mac and one will hold the clone of your PPC Mac.
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Extended Hard Drive Preparation
1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
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4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.
Steps 4-6 are optional but should be used on a drive that has never been formatted before, if the format type is not Mac OS Extended, if the partition scheme has been changed, or if a different operating system (not OS X) has been installed on the drive.
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a friend of mine is running his iTunes library on an external Firewire drive. He is using an intel iMac - not the absolute newest one, this one may be a year or so old.
question: I was thinking of getting him a bigger drive, and of course I noticed that firewire is more expensive than USB.
I know that on older computers (like my 2004 G5 PowerMac), USB is significantly slower than firewire.
Is that also the case with the intel iMacs?
Would firewire be noticeably faster than USB when running iTunes...
I just saw a hot deal on a USB 1 TB drive - $225... but if FW is really faster than USB, I will look for a FW drive for him!
thanks!
will

thanks to all of you!
In my experience, one needs all the speed one can get with iTunes and a large library (500 GB and up) so it sounds to me like it's worth the extra dough for a firewire drive, even for a FW 800.
Speaking of which, I noticed that the speed tests were for USB 2.0 vs FW 400 - I can only assume FW 800 is faster still, although, perhaps, not exactly twice as fast.
thanks again!
w

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My 17" Intel iMac has sleep problem past few days.
I use the Ctrl+Eject on the keyboard to put my iMac to sleep and it only needs 3 to 5 sec before.
But now I use same method, it got 30 sec. to sleep; same result thru Apple menu>sleep.
Used Onyx & repair permissions, still no change.
Anyone know what's the problem, how to fix it?
Plz help!
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Danlam,
A simple SMC (System Management Controller) reset is known to resolve a lot of sleep/wake related issues.
Here's how to do the reset:
- From the Apple menu, choose Shut Down (or if the computer is not responding, hold the power button until it turns off).
- Unplug all cables from the computer, including the power cord and any display cables.
- Wait at least 15 seconds.
- Plug the power cord back in, making sure the power button is not being pressed at the time.
-Then reconnect your keyboard and mouse to the computer.
- Press the power button on the back to start up your computer.
Follow this link to the Apple Article that describes the SMC and how to reset it in more detail: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303446
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Deleted Quicktime from my Intel iMAC and I need it back!!

I thought that I had an issue with Quicktime Pro. So, I deleted it from my iMac running 0S 10.4, thinking that I could download and re-install a clean copy of the program. NOT. I downloaded the "Quicktime version for All Quicktime 7 users" and when I try to install it I get an error message: There is a later version of Quicktime already installed. I can't find any version of QT on the machine and when I try to run a .mov file I get a message that there's no program associated with it.
Can anybody tell me how to reinstall Quicktime on my iMAC? I do have two other MAC's, one of which is an intel MacBook (with 10.5.9) and the other is a PPC with 10.4. Can I copy the QT from one of those and install it on the iMAC?

Quicktime not only installs the Application, but some other frameworks etc.
so, you cannot copy only the application.
Only if you have the exact copy of the version you trashed, you could do that.
You can try to copy from the "PPC 10.4"
Maybe it works.
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Here you can pick some Quicktime Installer Versions.
http://support.apple.com/downloads/#quicktime
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using the "Combo Updater"
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Hello,
Is there anyone out there with a 20" iMac having trouble with the M-Audio Firewire 410?
I am running Beta driver 1.7. I get no output from the Firewire 410. I see active channel lights and I can see the audio transition in the Firewrie control panel, but I get no output.
The 410 works fine on my PowerBook (same cables and hookups).
I also have a Firewire Solo that works fine on both machines (same cables and hookups).
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--R

Thought I would update the thread for anyone following this.
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Has anyone else experienced this? Any fix for it?

You posted in the wrong forum. Since you have an Intel, you will need to repost in the Intel-based iMac Forums.
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I have a big favor to ask of all you forum members. I have install media from different intel iMacs that I need to distinguish from one another. As far as I know, the discs from a 17" iMac with integrated graphics will not work on a 17" iMac with Radeon X1600 graphics, nor will they work across the Core Duo to Core 2 Duo bump. I'm looking for the AHT and any other distinguishing information from these discs so I know which iMac they belong to. Here's what I know so far:
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17" Intel iMac Mac OS X (10.4.9)
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Unfortunately I can't give any detailed information since I only have the original iMac CD (disk version 1.0) but until others chime in, here's some information that might be helpful.
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10.4.4 January 10,2006
10.4.5 February 14, 2006
10.4.6 April 3, 2006
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The Core 2 Duos debuts (I believe) in September of 2006 and likely shipped with 10.4.7 (or 10.4.8 although the first one is more likely).
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I am on a intel Imac and need to update to 10.5. How can i do this?

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Dual Core Intel iMac 10.5.5 suddenly sees no firewire video decks

We have 7 iMacs used in a general area for students to digitize. This week NONE of them will see any sort of video deck or camera through the firewire port.
I did repair permissions, unplugged everything for 10 minutes (including power), zapped the pram. They do not see a DSR-11 or JVC BR-50 deck nor a DVX100, AG-DV60 camera.(this is in either iMovie or FCP 6.0.5 and yes, I tried replacing firewire cables)
I could see one having a problem, but 7 all at once? We are just back from break and did the 10.5.5 upgrade before we left fir Christmas. (We also did this to 18 G5 Intel power macs and they seem to be fine.)
Any thoughts here folks? This definitely seems to be in the software somewhere, either with quicktime or Leopard since neither iMovie or FCP will recognize anything.

Do you happen to have any other firewire devices on these iMacs? Even FW800? Although rarely mentioned, I have seen several Intel iMacs that would turn a deaf ear to DV devices when external drives were also attached simultaneously. Often removing the external drive(s) would resolve the issue, sometimes a reboot was also required.
I have heard that a firewire hub in series may help to resolve the issue, and that it may be related to a timing or power problem on the firewire controller chip in these iMacs. I had also read it may lie in the DV drivers, because someone who booted his iMac into XP had no issues capturing to Premiere or Vegas!
Since the FW 400 and 800 connectors are both driven from this same bus chip, I have to do camcorder captures to the internal drive, then copy them to FW800 raid once the camera is unplugged.
I have been very frustrated by this in the year I've had this iMac, since I bought it to run FCP. Doing video you always need more storage space, and this is quite a limitation... I haven't tried 10.4.x to see if that resolves it; if Snow Leopard corrects it I will be the first to buy it!

Bootable clones for both iMac (Intel) and G5 (PPC) on same external drive??

Is it possible to format and partition one external firewire drive to accept a bootable clone of my iMac (Intel) on one partition and my G5 (PPC) on the other? I seem to remember that in order to be able to boot, the Intel and the PPC require something different in formatting on the drive.
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I put up instructions and a picture showing how to select the partition scheme:
http://www.pinkmutant.com/articles/Leopard/leobugs.html
Scroll down to about the middle of the page.
Frankly I was surprised to find out you can boot an Intel machine from a drive that is APM rather than GUID. I'm not sure that what you want to do is going to be as easy as one would hope. Anyway, the instructions I found for dual booting off a firewire drive sounded a bit complex!
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Francine
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Intel iMac 20' users - any problems with noise on your firewire interfaces?

Someone please tell me that they have a quiet intel iMac 20'/Firewire interface set up, I'm having problems with a lot of digital noise from my Saffire LE & badly am hoping it's 'fixable' or just a faulty unit but more so, praying it's not noise from the iMacs Power supply that will interfere with any firewire interface I get???
I've read many posts about G5's suffering from noisy psu's which was one factor in my choosing an intel iMac & I chose the Saffire on it's great reviews for sound quality, there's no way I can work with the noise I'm getting & I'm pretty much panicking that if it IS the iMac & firewire thats the problem I'll be screwed as i only have 6 pin firewire as a useable option (really don't want to use usb2)
Incidentally, the 'budget' set up I had previously (PC & soundblaster audigy) didnt suffer from any noise like this (at least not that was even audible with the mixer levels at conversational level!) which i guess rules out any blame of this on 'mains hum/interference'?
The noise is there with the saffire's monitor output knob at any setting & with no inputs connected, it;s even worse if i power the saffire with it's external psu instead of off buss power. I'm not using a firewire hub & I've tried switching firewire leads & removing the firewire hard drive i have in the other port in case this was affecting it.
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funnily enough I'm going the other way, I have a rack of external modules/>sampler/fx etc & a crate of looms I've just unplugged as they've not been >turned on in so long!!!
I hear you there!
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I know it can be really frustrating, especially if you have noise coming from more that one source. The key is to strip everything until it is quiet and then add them back in to see where the worst is. Then come up with a plan to try to get rid of the noise.

I have an Intel iMac running OSX 10.6.8. I would like to use Final Cut Pro 10.1. I know I need OSX 10.9 for this. Can I run both 10.6.8 and 10.9 on the iMac ? I do not want to convert completely to 10.9 because of my existing software. Thanks for any help

I have an Intel iMac running OSX 10.6.8. I would like to use Final Cut Pro 10.1. I know I need OSX 10.9 for this. Can I run both 10.6.8 and 10.9 on the iMac ? I do not want to convert completely to 10.9 because of my existing software. Thanks for any help

It would depend on how old your IMac is, how mush memory you have, it it can be upgraded by OWC, etc. I have a 2006 Macbook Pro and would NOT put Mavericks on it or espeacially FCP 10.1.1 on it because the most memory it can have is 4 GB. You need at least 8 GB to work with Final Cut Pro 10.1.1. IMHO.
I would try to find a copy of Final Cut Express perhaps.
Does this answer your question?

Need Urgent Help Cannot install Mac OSX 10.6 on 20" intel imac

I recently purchased an intel imac an intel mac pro from an auction. When i purchased the macs i was told that no operating systems will installed and i would need to purchase and install mac osx10.
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i put the new disc in the mac and restarted holding down c.
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You cannot buy a retail version of Tiger that will install on any Intel Macs. You must have the original installer discs that came with the computer. You should not have purchased the computers without them nor should they have been sold to you without them.
The only option you have is to call AppleCare or go to a local Apple store and see if you can purchase the discs needed for each computer (there are different versions for each model.)
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