Booting from disc vs erase and install from disc

I need to erase and install.
I need the cleanest installation. I was thing about "erase and install" from the disc.
I know some people like to boot from the disc.
What is best?
Thanks.

To do an erase & install, you'll have to boot from the disc.
 Cheers, Tom

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    5. After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
    6. You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update.

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