BPM - triggering process based on Transport Acknowledgement

hello everyone, have a theoretical type question i would like some advice on.
scenario --> IDOC from R/3, transformed and sent to file adapter. In the BPM, i have defined the send step to the file adapter as being asynchronous, but have specified an acknowledgement type of 'transport' to be returned.
As the step is asynchronous and is thus persisted i cannot trigger an exception if the send does not occur. Question -is it possible to make subsequent steps dependent on the success of the transport acknowledgement being returned from the send step?
thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this topic!
/david

hi,
we can have the header file as header and item file as item. basically based on our convenient we can suggest the file name to the sender. so scheme can be anything that fits our requirement

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Best regards
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Thx, but I have already read those forum threads.
I find the error strange, I can see that the file is transfered then it's seem like the process stops and wait on the acknowlegement. Then when the deadline time is up then it returns saying that it failed.
Does the FTP server need to have some special feature for getting this transport acknowledgment?
Best regards
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and then i need to update the status in JDBC for those records that are successfully transfered to ECC..
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then i think it Will not execute next steps
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Transport Ack is basically used in those scenarios where you want to confirm that the message has been delivered by SAP XI/ PI succuessfully to the end system....not to confirm whether the message has been processed by the end system.
Mostly used with FILE (not compulsory though) and in similar scenarios where the end system/ protocol does not support ACK.
terminate process as u told will terminate all the 50 transactions or only that particuar instance and remaining will execute normally??
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Exception handling of Transport acknowledgement in asynchronous send in BPM

HI,
A silly question, but your help would be greatly appreciated..
- I have a asynch send step in a BPM for sending data to the target system through RFC
- It has acknoweledgement property of this send step is set to transport acknowledgement
- The exception property of this send step is set to throw a 'RFCException'
- This send step is inside a block
- This block also has an Exception branch which catches this 'RFCException'
- now my RFC channel failed for some known reason, but the flow never went into the Exception branch
IS this behaviour of the 'transport acknowledgement' property of an asynch send step in BPM expected ?
What should I take care so that if my RFC receiver channel throws an exception, the flow of my BPM goes to the exception branch ??

- now my RFC channel failed for some known reason, but the flow never went into the Exception branch
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What should I take care so that if my RFC receiver channel throws an exception, the flow of my BPM goes to the exception
branch ??
When an exception is caught by the Transport Acknowledgement it will trigger the Exception branch (if the send step is defined inside a Block with an Exception Branch)
I think you have not defined (and then assigned) a proper Exception Handler for the Block.
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> You can add a deadline branch
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I have the following Integration Process (BPM) defined.
I receive a RFC Message from R/3 in XI. The RFC message is put into a BPM scenario. It then waits for a second message to arrive which belongs to the first. Then i have to send the two messages in order (first the 1st message, then the second). These messages are both Asynchron. To make sure the messages are sent in correct order, i put the send steps in separate blocks and i request a transport acknowledgement. The message is written with a file adapter to a directory. This is on the testing environment and (as far as i can see now) working correct, because the send step is waiting for the acknowledgement and then going to process the second message.
Now in the production system we do not send the message to a file, but to another system using the HTTP adapter. I cannot test this in any other system, so my question is: <b>Can i use the Transport Acknowledgement with the HTTP adapter in the production system to make sure the messages are delivered in correct order???</b>
Or do i have to do other things?
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Hi,
Considering that HTTP adapters also support transport ack's, I dont think this should be a problem and it should work just as it did with file adapters.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/0d/5ab43b274a960de10000000a114084/content.htm
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I am sending a PO from a legacy System (File Adapter /)Asynchronous and from XI we are sending to a Vendor using (Asynchronous/HTTP Adapter).
I am using a BPM to do the above process. In my Send Step to Vendor, I have the Transport Acknowldgement set. I am trying to catch the Bad Return code, if the Vendor Server is Down or Vendor Server Gateway timed out or any other problems.
How should I move further?
My BPM looks like Receive Step (Receive a message from File) & Send step (Transport Acknowledgment set, Send the message to Vendor), both of the above steps are inside a Block Step?
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Karen,
I guess, your Block would look something like this.
1. Block with Exception(Property) "HTTPError".
2. Normal Branch with the send step and Exception(Property) "HTTPError".
3. Deadline Branch with the control step and Exception(Property) "HTTPError".
4. Exception Branch with the control step and property 'raise alert'.
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>>I Inserted an Exception Branch for that above Block and dropped a Control Step . Action ---> Throw Exception and Exception, when I click the dropdown I am not seeing the HTTPError that I have defined for the block.
That's correct, excption defined for a blcok will be visible only in normal path and the deadline branch..
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>>On the other hand when I define a Deadline branch, I see the HTTPErro, what exactly I am missing here.
I think my explnation for the first question answers this..
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I'm using BPM in my scenario. In a loop, I'm sending out IDocs, for which I'm using transport acknowledgement.
The strange thing is that the IDoc is received in R/3, but XI is still awaiting the transport acknowledgement. Sometimes this ackowledgement comes pretty fast, within a few seconds, but another time it takes up to 10 minutes before the transport acknowledgement is received.
How is this possible? The XI IDoc adapter is supposed to send the transport acknowledgement, right? How can it be that is takes this long for the BPM send step to receive it?

Hi
Does anyone know if there has been an update to this issue from SAP side. I have the same problem and the issue can be also be found discussed in following threads:
Re: Acknowledgement problem
SXMB_MONI and BPM acknowledgement status updates
I think it is weird that you will have to update the status in SXI_MONITOR to actually get the acknowledgement back. I have experienced the transport ack coming back right away, but now I also have this problem.
Hopefully someone has been enlightened lately?
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regards Pavel
Edited by: Pavel Jonas on Jan 29, 2009 3:45 PM

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In, XI3.0 stack 11, Business process have two SEND STEPs one for PO and another one for GI and the required condition is GI idoc should get posted only after posting PO idoc.
As of now I have put transport acknowledgement in the first send step so that once all PO idocs are sent to r/3 then only the second SEND step will post the GI idocs.
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