Bridge table size on WGB

Hi
I've set up an old 1121 access point as a WGB on our unified (i.e. lightweight) wireless network. It works fine, but the VLAN that
the wireless side connects to has between 200 and 300 clients at any one time. The bridge table size seems to be fixed at 300 entries, and I'm concerned that at some point this may overflow. I've put this in the wireless config:
int dot110
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
bridge-group 1 block-unknown-source
to try to keep the size of the table down, but it seems to make no difference. Is my only option to move the WGB to a VLAN which has fewer clients?
Thanks
Max Caines
University of Wolverhampton

Hi , I fetched this for you:
Total number of forwarding database elements in the system. The memory to hold bridge entries is allocated in blocks of memory sufficient to hold 300 individual entries. When the number of free entries falls below 25, another block of memory sufficient to hold another 300 entries is allocated. Thus, the total number of forwarding elements in the system is expanded dynamically, as needed, limited by the amount of free memory in the router.
Now this docu if for router, but since both AP and Routers run IOS Code then the logic should still be the same.
So either:
1- Keep me posted on what happens when you indeed reach 300 on current table to see if AP will allocate extra 300 when 25 threshold is reached
or
2- move wgb to less busy vlan
Thanks
Serge

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Open “Table Inspector” (Click Table icon at top of Pages document)
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https://support.us.oracle.com/oip/faces/secure/srm/srview/SRViewStandalone.jspx?sr=3-1674105521
Customer Smiths Medical International Limited
Description: Multiple Paths error while using Bridge Table
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Connected to: Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.2.0.4.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP, Data Mining and Real Application Testing options
Master table "SYSTEM"."SYS_IMPORT_FULL_01" successfully loaded/unloaded
Starting "SYSTEM"."SYS_IMPORT_FULL_01": system/******** DUMPFILE=TMP1.dmp LOGFILE=imp.log PARALLEL=8 QUERY=SYSADM.TMP1:"WHERE TMP1.A = 2" REMAP_TABLE=SYSADM.TMP1:TMP3 CONTENT=DATA_ONLY
Processing object type TABLE_EXPORT/TABLE/TABLE_DATA
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With the Partitioning, OLAP, Data Mining and Real Application Testing options
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Nicolas.
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Table size exceeds Keep Pool Size (db_keep_cache_size)

Hello,
We have a situation where one of our applications started performing bad since last week.
After some analysis, it was found this was due to data increase in a table that was stored in KEEP POOL.
After the data increase, the table size exceeded db_keep_cache_size.
I was of the opinion that in such cases KEEP POOL will still be used but the remaining data will be brought in as needed from the table.
But, I ran some tests and found it is not the case. If the table size exceeds db_keep_cache_size, then KEEP POOL is not used at all.
Is my inference correct here ?
SQL> select * from v$version;
BANNER
Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.2.0.2.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 11.2.0.2.0 - Production
CORE    11.2.0.2.0      Production
TNS for Linux: Version 11.2.0.2.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 11.2.0.2.0 - ProductionSetup
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NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
buffer_pool_keep                     string
control_file_record_keep_time        integer     7
db_keep_cache_size                   big integer 4M
SQL>
SQL>
SQL> create table t1 storage (buffer_pool keep) as select * from all_objects union all select * from all_objects;
Table created.
SQL> set autotrace on
SQL>
SQL> exec print_table('select * from user_segments where segment_name = ''T1''');
PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
SQL> set serveroutput on
SQL> exec print_table('select * from user_segments where segment_name = ''T1''');
SEGMENT_NAME                  : T1
PARTITION_NAME                :
SEGMENT_TYPE                  : TABLE
SEGMENT_SUBTYPE               : ASSM
TABLESPACE_NAME               : HR_TBS
BYTES                         : 16777216
BLOCKS                        : 2048
EXTENTS                       : 31
INITIAL_EXTENT                : 65536
NEXT_EXTENT                   : 1048576
MIN_EXTENTS                   : 1
MAX_EXTENTS                   : 2147483645
MAX_SIZE                      : 2147483645
RETENTION                     :
MINRETENTION                  :
PCT_INCREASE                  :
FREELISTS                     :
FREELIST_GROUPS               :
BUFFER_POOL                   : KEEP
FLASH_CACHE                   : DEFAULT
CELL_FLASH_CACHE              : DEFAULT
PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.DB_KEEP_CACHE_SIZE=4M
SQL> select count(*) from t1;
COUNT(*)
    135496
Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 3724264953
| Id | Operation          | Name | Rows | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT   |      |     1 |   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
|   1 | SORT AGGREGATE    |      |     1 |            |          |
|   2 |   TABLE ACCESS FULL| T1   |   126K|   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
Note
   - dynamic sampling used for this statement (level=2)
Statistics
          9 recursive calls
          0 db block gets
       2006 consistent gets
       2218 physical reads
          0 redo size
        424 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
        419 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
          2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          0 sorts (memory)
          0 sorts (disk)
          1 rows processed
SQL> /
COUNT(*)
    135496
Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 3724264953
| Id | Operation          | Name | Rows | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT   |      |     1 |   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
|   1 | SORT AGGREGATE    |      |     1 |            |          |
|   2 |   TABLE ACCESS FULL| T1   |   126K|   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
Note
   - dynamic sampling used for this statement (level=2)
Statistics
          0 recursive calls
          0 db block gets
       1940 consistent gets
       1937 physical reads
          0 redo size
        424 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
        419 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
          2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          0 sorts (memory)
          0 sorts (disk)
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Connected.
SQL>
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SQL>
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NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
buffer_pool_keep                     string
control_file_record_keep_time        integer     7
db_keep_cache_size                   big integer 12M
SQL>
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SQL>
SQL> select count(*) from t1;
COUNT(*)
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Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 3724264953
| Id | Operation          | Name | Rows | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT   |      |     1 |   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
|   1 | SORT AGGREGATE    |      |     1 |            |          |
|   2 |   TABLE ACCESS FULL| T1   |   126K|   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
Note
   - dynamic sampling used for this statement (level=2)
Statistics
          0 recursive calls
          0 db block gets
       1940 consistent gets
       1937 physical reads
          0 redo size
        424 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
        419 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
          2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          0 sorts (memory)
          0 sorts (disk)
          1 rows processed
SQL> /
COUNT(*)
    135496
Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 3724264953
| Id | Operation          | Name | Rows | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT   |      |     1 |   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
|   1 | SORT AGGREGATE    |      |     1 |            |          |
|   2 |   TABLE ACCESS FULL| T1   |   126K|   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
Note
   - dynamic sampling used for this statement (level=2)
Statistics
          0 recursive calls
          0 db block gets
       1940 consistent gets
       1937 physical reads
          0 redo size
        424 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
        419 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
          2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          0 sorts (memory)
          0 sorts (disk)
          1 rows processedDB_KEEP_CACHE_SIZE=20M
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Connected.
SQL>
SQL> alter system set db_keep_cache_size=20M scope=both;
System altered.
SQL>
SQL> connect hr/hr@orcl
Connected.
SQL>
SQL> show parameter keep
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
buffer_pool_keep                     string
control_file_record_keep_time        integer     7
db_keep_cache_size                   big integer 20M
SQL> set autotrace on
SQL> select count(*) from t1;
COUNT(*)
    135496
Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 3724264953
| Id | Operation          | Name | Rows | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT   |      |     1 |   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
|   1 | SORT AGGREGATE    |      |     1 |            |          |
|   2 |   TABLE ACCESS FULL| T1   |   126K|   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
Note
   - dynamic sampling used for this statement (level=2)
Statistics
          0 recursive calls
          0 db block gets
       1943 consistent gets
       1656 physical reads
          0 redo size
        424 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
        419 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
          2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          0 sorts (memory)
          0 sorts (disk)
          1 rows processed
SQL> /
COUNT(*)
    135496
Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 3724264953
| Id | Operation          | Name | Rows | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT   |      |     1 |   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
|   1 | SORT AGGREGATE    |      |     1 |            |          |
|   2 |   TABLE ACCESS FULL| T1   |   126K|   538   (1)| 00:00:07 |
Note
   - dynamic sampling used for this statement (level=2)
Statistics
          0 recursive calls
          0 db block gets
       1943 consistent gets
          0 physical reads
          0 redo size
        424 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
        419 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
          2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          0 sorts (memory)
          0 sorts (disk)
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Does it mean that if the db_keep_cache_size < table size, there is no caching for that table ?
Or am I missing something ?
Rgds,
Gokul

Hello Jonathan,
Many thanks for your response.
Here is the test I ran;
SQL> select buffer_pool,blocks from dba_tables where owner = 'HR' and table_name = 'T1';
BUFFER_     BLOCKS
KEEP          1977
SQL> select count(*) from v$bh where objd = (select data_object_id from dba_objects where owner = 'HR' and object_name = 'T1');
COUNT(*)
      1939
SQL> show parameter db_keep_cache_size
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
db_keep_cache_size                   big integer 20M
SQL>
SQL> alter system set db_keep_cache_size = 5M scope=both;
System altered.
SQL> select count(*) from hr.t1;
COUNT(*)
    135496
SQL> select count(*) from v$bh where objd = (select data_object_id from dba_objects where owner = 'HR' and object_name = 'T1');
COUNT(*)
       992I think my inference is wrong and as you said I am indeed seeing the effect of tail end flushing the start of the table.
Rgds,
Gokul

How to define an aggregation rule for a dimension based on bridge table?

Hello,
I need a solution for aggregating data correctly when using a dimension based on a set of dimensione tables containing a bridge table. Please find below a description of my business case and the OBIEE model which I’ve created thus far.
Business Case
The company involved wants to report on the number of support cases, the different types of actions that were taken and the people involved in those actions. One support case will undergo a number of actions (called ‘handelingen’) until it is closed. For each action at least one person is involved performing a specific role, but there can also be multiple persons involved with 1 action, each performing a different role for that action. This is the N : N part of the model.
The problem that I face is visible in the two pictures below:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k24/The_Dutchman_2006/OBIEE/sample.png
As long as I don’t include anything from the Dimension Meelezer in my report, I get the correct number of handelingen (7). When I include the person (called ‘Meelezer’), the measuere per action is multiplied by the number of persons/roles involved with that action.
When I changed the Aggregation rule in the report column #Handelingen to ‘Server Complex Aggregate’ I do get the correct endtotal:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k24/The_Dutchman_2006/OBIEE/sample2.png
I believe it should be possible to define in the repository a different aggregation rule for individual dimensions, but I’ve not been able to achieve this.
Explained below is what I have created in my Physical and Business Model & Mapping layers:
The Physical Model is built like this:
(This is just a small part of a much larger physical model, but I’ve only included the most relevant tables)
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k24/The_Dutchman_2006/OBIEE/PhysicalDiagram-1.png
The Fact table (ALS Feit Zaakverloop) contains FK’s for the action (FK_HANDELING, joined to ALS Dim Handeling), the date the action took place (FK_DATUM_ZAAKVERLOOP, joined to ALS Dim Datum Zaakverloop) and the uniqe group of people involved (FK_MEELEZERS, joined to ALS Groep Meelezers) and a measure column (SUM_HANDELINGEN) populated with the value ‘1’ for each row.
The Bridge table (ALS Brug Meelezer/Reden Meelezen) contains three FK’s: FK_GR_MEELEZERS (joined to ALS Groep Meelezers), FK_MEELEZER (joined to ALS Dim Functionaris) and FK_REDEN_MEELEZEN (joined to ALS Dim Reden Meelezen).
The Business Model
In the business model, the four physical tables for the N:N relation have been combined into one logical dimension table.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k24/The_Dutchman_2006/OBIEE/BusinessModel-1.png
DIM Meelezer contains one LTS in which the four physical tables have been combined:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k24/The_Dutchman_2006/OBIEE/LTS1.png
And all the required locical columns have been created:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k24/The_Dutchman_2006/OBIEE/LTS2.png
DIM Meelezer has also been identified as a bridge table and a Business Key has been defined on a combination of the FK’s in the bridge table and business codes of the two dimension tables.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k24/The_Dutchman_2006/OBIEE/BMDIM.png
Next a hierachy was created for Dim Meelezer:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k24/The_Dutchman_2006/OBIEE/Hier.png
In Feit Zaakverloop, a measurement called ‘# Handelingen’ was created using SUM_HANDELINGEN, with an aggregation rule of SUM.
In the LTS of both the DIM Meelezer and Feit Zaakverloop, the Logical Content Levels have both been set to: LVL Detail – Meelezer.
Please provide suggestions that will NOT require changes to the physical datamodel as they would require too much time to achieve (or at leats would not be ready before my deadline.
Thanks!
Edited by: The_Dutchman on Dec 13, 2011 11:43 AM

Hmm, no replies yet...
Am I in 'uncharted territory' with this issue?

Bridge Table between two fact tables

Hello everybody,
From what I have read on the BI Administration tool help and on this forum, bridge tables are used to define many-to-many relations between dimension sand fact tables. Is it possible to have a bridge table defining a many-to-many relation between two fact tables?
Here is my senario:
1. We have a fact table called fact_Orders describing orders for some products.
2. We have a fact table called fact_Sales describing sales og these products.
3. We have a table describing the transformation from order lines to sales lines which is a many-to-many relation, because it is possible to transform an order in more than two steps.
I was thinking of connecting the two fact tables with a bridge table.
If bridge tables are inappropriate for this case, what could be a better model for my senario?
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Hi,
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Sounds to me like all you need is an order dimension table, rows in the orders fact table will join to this dimension and so will rows in the sales fact table. You can then do calculations like number of sales per order, total sales revenue per order, # of order items per order etc etc.
Regards,
Matt

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Is is possible to change a table size and headers that is inside a type def cluster?
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I have modified to vi to adjust the "test table" dynamically based on the input file. But the "test table" in the cluster does not update it's size or column headers.
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Attachments:
Load Test Parms.JPG ‏199 KB
Table Cluster.JPG ‏122 KB

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Alternative of Bridge table in data Modelling.

Hello Gurus,
while doing the data modeling, we found one place where we have Many to Many joins between One Fact and 3 Dim.
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so as in obiee we have to build the bridge table to take care of the issue.
is there any alternative method of data modeling that can eliminate the Bridge table itself?
I was thinking to add the dim attribute in fact itself. though it's with diff grain it should work??

If you really have a many-to-many relationship from fact to dimension, which attribute value (which of the many) would you put on the fact?
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Weblogic Bridge Batch Size setting ?

What is the per-requisite to set JMS bridge batch size in weblogic 10.3.3
Customer setting in production:
QoS --> Exactly once
Asynchronous Mode Enabled --> True
Batch Size --> 1
From weblogic console
"A messaging bridge instance provides transaction semantics when the QOS is Exactly-once. This envelops a received message and sends it within a user transaction (XA/JTA)."
From documentation
Changing the Batch Size
When the Asynchronous Mode Enabled attribute is set to false and the quality of service is Exactly-once, the Batch Size attribute can be used to reduce the number of transaction commits by increasing the number of messages per transaction (batch). The best batch size for a bridge instance depends on the combination of JMS providers used, the hardware, operating system, and other factors in the application environment. See “Configure transaction properties” in Administration Console Online Help.
Can batch size be set when Asynchronous Mode Enabled --> True ? If yes, what can be the optimal batch size in a production environment ?
Right now application works fines for non-batch orders from CRM. When customers submit batch of 500 orders during specific hours of the day, lot of messages get queued up affecting the order completion rate.
Thanks,
Murali
Edited by: murali_ora123 on May 22, 2013 6:28 AM
Edited by: murali_ora123 on May 22, 2013 6:34 AM

BatchSize does not take effect in async mode.
What is the provider of your source destination? If it is not WLS JMS destination, your bridge may actually work in sync mode although you have configured it to work in async mode. In order to work in async mode for exactly-once QOS, a WLS proprietary feature is needed. We should see a log message in your server log file when the switch to the sync mode happens.
If your bridge is indeed work in sync mode, you need to tune your batch size and batch interval to find the best performance for your application load condition. BatchInterval helps you send a batch before the batch is filled with the number of messages defined by batch size.
Hope this helps.

Table size not reducing after delete

The table size in dba_segments is not reducing after we delete the data from the table. How can i regain the space after deleting the data from a table.
Regards,
Natesh

I think when you do DELETE it removes the data but
it's not releasing any used space and it's still
marked as used space. I think reorganizing would help
to compress and pack all block and relase any unused
space in blocks. Why do you think that? Deleting data will create space that can be reused by subsequent insert/ update operations. It is not going to release space back to the tablespace to make it available for inserts into other tables in the tablespace, but that's not generally an issue unless you are permanently decreasing the size of a table, which is pretty rare.
Would you also please explain about different about
LOB and LONG ? or point me to any link which explain
baout it.From the Oracle Concepts manual's section on the LONG data type
"Note:
Do not create tables with LONG columns. Use LOB columns (CLOB, NCLOB) instead. LONG columns are supported only for backward compatibility.
Oracle also recommends that you convert existing LONG columns to LOB columns. LOB columns are subject to far fewer restrictions than LONG columns. Further, LOB functionality is enhanced in every release, whereas LONG functionality has been static for several releases."
LONG was a very badly implemented solution to storing large amounts of data. LOBs are a much, much better designed solution-- you should always be using LOBs.
Justin

TABLE SIZE NOT DECREASING AFTER DELETION. BLOCKS NOT BEING RE-USED

Hi ,
Problem:
Table size before deletion: 40GB
Total rows before deletion: over 200000
Rows deleted=190000 rows
Table size after deletion is more (as new data was inserted meanwhile).
Purpose of table:
This table is a sort of transaction table.
Whenever an SR is raised by CSR, data gets inserted into this table and is removed when the status is cleared.
So there is constant insertion and purging will happen on this table.
We are using ASSM and tablespace is LOCAL.
This Table has a LONG column also.
Is this problem because of LONG column ?
So here there are 2 problems.
1) INSERTs are not using the space created by DELETE.
2) New INSERTs are taking much more space then expected ?
Let me have your suggestion
Thanks,

I think when you do DELETE it removes the data but
it's not releasing any used space and it's still
marked as used space. I think reorganizing would help
to compress and pack all block and relase any unused
space in blocks. Why do you think that? Deleting data will create space that can be reused by subsequent insert/ update operations. It is not going to release space back to the tablespace to make it available for inserts into other tables in the tablespace, but that's not generally an issue unless you are permanently decreasing the size of a table, which is pretty rare.
Would you also please explain about different about
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"Note:
Do not create tables with LONG columns. Use LOB columns (CLOB, NCLOB) instead. LONG columns are supported only for backward compatibility.
Oracle also recommends that you convert existing LONG columns to LOB columns. LOB columns are subject to far fewer restrictions than LONG columns. Further, LOB functionality is enhanced in every release, whereas LONG functionality has been static for several releases."
LONG was a very badly implemented solution to storing large amounts of data. LOBs are a much, much better designed solution-- you should always be using LOBs.
Justin

OBI EE 10g: Bridge tables and Based on Dimensions Aggregation

hi experts,
i am working on OBI EE 10 g (10.1.3.4)
The BM&M layer consist of:
1) Logical fact table "Sale_Indicators"
Fields: SALE_ID (PK, FK),
D1_ID (FK),
D2_ID (FK),
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Indicator2 (measure, level of granularity: SALE_ID),
Indicator3 (measure, level of granularity: SALE_ID)
2) Logical dimension table
"Sales" (PK: SALE_ID),
"D1" (PK: D1_ID),
"D2" (PK: D2_ID),
"Customers" (PK: SALE_ID, CUST_ID) - bridge table!
"Products" (PK: SALE_ID, PROD_ID) - bridge table!
3) Dimensions: SalesDim, D1Dim, D2Dim, CustomersDim, ProductsDim
If fact table is joined with bridge table, the number of rows in fact table is multiplied, for example:
D1_ID | SALE_ID | CUST_ID | Indicator1
777 | 1 | 14 | 10
777 | 1 | 17 | 10
777 | 2 | 15 | 12
888 | 3 | 16 | 20
888 | 3 | 17 | 20
888 | 4 | 19 | 30
I need to get report:
D1_ID | Indicator1 (SUM)
777 | 22
888 | 50
and with filter by customer, for example (CUST_ID = 17):
D1_ID | Indicator1 (SUM)
777 | 10
888 | 20
i am trying to use "based on dimension" aggregation, for example (Indicator1):
Dimension Formula
CustomersDim MIN
ProductsDim MIN
Others SUM
The generated physical SQL performs joining EVERY dimension to the fact table, even though they are not included in the final result set.
Is there any way to tweak logical or physical model in order to eliminate excessive joins?
Thanks in advance!
Edited by: 859688 on 31.10.2011 4:04
Edited by: 859688 on 31.10.2011 4:06
Edited by: 859688 on 31.10.2011 4:08

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