Bring in audio, sync it, create new clip?

We shot and recorded "dirty" audio with the camera mic, and clean audio with an external recorder. We must have done something right, because the "external" audio seems to run at the same speed as the "dirty camera" audio. Miracles will never cease.
Anyway, for each clip I want to bring in the "clean" audio, sync it with the video/"dirty" audio, drop the "dirty" audio, and save the clip with video and "clean" audio only. Or make a new clip, or whatever. So once this is done, I can start editing the project with video and "clean" audio in each clip.
Is this possible? Anybody know how?
(P.S.: shot with the Panasonic AG-HMC150, 1080 24P at the highest data rate; Log and Transfer to ProRes 422; looks amazing!)

Experience....manual reading. But I admit I don't refer to the manual until I need to do something I don't know how to do. But that is often..
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In the past i have had issues with sync when digitizing long clips. is this still the case with FCP? Can i safely digitize 45-60min clips?
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