Multicam Audio Sync Premiere CC MXF clips fails everytime!

Hi,
Premiere CC cannot audio sync MXF clips (from two Canon XF100s). It fails everytime and just places all clips concurrently from their start. No syncing occurs.
Is this a known bug?
Michael

Hi Kevin,
Unfortunately, no audio syncing occurred with multi-cam on 2 different formats (MPG and MP4). I did find out how to view the multi-cam sequence though.... You need to have the track with the multi-cam sequence selected. If it's not selected, the preview window is blank.
But Premiere still can't sync audio with all formats I've tried.
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