BSP vs Web Dynpro ABAP
Hello,
we are looking for a listing that states the functional and technical differences between Web Dynpro ABAP an BSP.
Is there anybody who has come along such a list ?
Tx a lot in advance!
Best regards,
Ana
Annette,
check this
The SAP Web Application Server (WAS) provides a page-based programming model with server-side scripting as well as server page technology for developing, designing and implementing Web applications:
Business Server Pages (BSP). Server-side scripting enables direct access to all elements in the application server (such as function modules, database tables, ABAP Objects, and so on.).
We can create HTML pages or Business Server Pages (BSPs) with server-side scripting in ABAP or JavaScript.
The HTMLB and XHTMLB HTML Business libraries are available as BSP Extensions for a uniform layout and its associated usability advantages.
And In the Web Application Server, the presentation layer is separate from the business logic. This makes it possible to implement front-end technology.
Why BSP NOT WebDynpro
BSP
ABAP WEBDYNPRO
Currently PMUSA/JMC customers are using Fire fox (Mozilla), Internet Explorer and Netscape navigator web browsers to access WEBUYPM application.
BSP supports these web browsers.
Restricted (Some of the features will not be supported by WebDynpro)
Existing WEBUYPM application is written in HTML, Business HTML and JavaScript language.
BSP supports these languages. And it allows even to mix ABAP, HTML and JavaScript thus has more flexibility to convert WEBUYPM application into BSP.
Web Dynpro does not support HTML/JavaScript.
Existing WEBUYPM displays the trade communications (Information tab) based on JavaScript and custom configuration file
BSP supports JavaScript, we can display the trade communications in BSP too.
Web Dynpro does not support Java Script.
Existing WEBUYPM application has different colors schemes, Logos and graphical elements for PMUSA/JMC companies.
BSP support s multiple color schemes/logo. These color schemes can be set dynamically based on company code selection at runtime.
Separate Themes has to be developed for each User Interface elements.
Development effort needs to be involved to even display a logo.
BSP supports client side (user) validations. As most of these validations can be done at client side, the no. of hits on the server can be reduced and thus giving better response for the user inputs.
In this way, performance can be increased.
Web dynpro does not support any client side validations, every time the request must be sent to server to validate the useru2019s input. This increases the traffic and reduces the performance
WEBUYPM application has logos, images.
BSP supports Client side caching, and thus loads these element from client side very quickly.
Web dynpro supports very little use of caching on the client side, and hence quite a significant delay in starting on some customeru2019s browsers.
BSP has no restriction on user interface possibilities, Ex. Grid, drop down boxes, Font colors, size etc.
Significantly more restrictive in user interface possibilities.
Ex. Only those fonts, which are provided by SAP, can be used.
Appearance can be changed dynamically using same web pages, to support different colors for different companies.
We can have same (or better) look and feel if we convert the application into BSP.
As there is no HTML coding involved in web dynpro the same look and feel as we have it today can't be achieved by using web dynpro.
BSP is built for developing any type of web application (including mobile applications. It can be accessed from desktop, laptop, and any kind of smart devices like PDA.
Web dynpro applications can not be accessed from PDA s (Not possible)
Why WebDynpro NOT BSP
ABAP WEBDYNPRO
BSP
Personalization can be given to the end user if they do not want see any of the user-interface elements.
We can not hide any of the user-interface elements (Ex buttons ex) during the runtime.
Note - Current WEBUYPM application does not support any of these options.
Currently we are setting/retrieving the runtime context values in a session.
Web dynpro supports State full applications.
No additional development would be required.
BSP also supports to set runtime values and to retrieve the runtime context values, but minor development would be required to achieve this functionality.
Currently users can see view source for WEBUYPM HTML pages.
Using Web dynpro this can be restricted thus providing more security to the application.
HTML view source can be available to the users, Users can see the HTML client side code (not server side coding) as it does today.
By using Adobe Flash Island, powerful web pages (RIA) can be created.
But, Flash Island comes with Net weaver.
BSP does not support Flash Island. But, BSP supports Java Script.
JavaScript is essential for the new trend of rich internet applications (RIA), it is used by all the new applications, Ajax, Widgets, Flash, and even Microsoft is supporting JavaScript for the new generation of RIA
Web dynpro has wizard tools to generate the code to create/configure the User Interface elements.
Development effort would be required to create UI elements.
We dynpro has uniformity as we use standard colors provided by SAP
Uniformity can be achieved by using style sheets (minor development would be required).
Thanks
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The designtime environment is properly embedded in the ABAP Workbench where Web Dynpro artifacts are simply a new category like BSP applications or classical dynpro based applications before. Also no surprises regarding the development infrastructure. The correction and transport system keeps track on all changes that are done, versions them and helps to propagate the Web Dynpro application from development to production like you would do with ordinary BSP or dynpro-based applications.
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First of all start doing SAP SDN tutorials .
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/people/marilyn.pratt/blog/2005/12/20/web-dynpro-for-abap
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Wait not just that SAP has provided you with ample demo example of WD ABAP already bundled with SAP . Just Try out Components starting with WDR . I can tell you few like WDR_TEST_EVENTS ( It shows how every UI elments to use )
See packages like SWDP_DEMO , SALV_WD_DEMO
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2 ) I can give you links that can help you a lot.
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