Business Area should be defined

Hi
I proposed that each location (branches) of my client should be defined as an profit center (for getting trial balance at business area level).
But my client is insisting for creating location as a business area and not profit center.
But i think business area concept is obsolete in SAP ECC6.0. I believe that the SAP has stop providing support for business area.
I want to show the OSS note or some link on the basis of which i can tell that it is better to use profit center than business area.
Please help where i can get this link or OSS note

Meenu,
I can't speak for what SAP will support/improve in the future. You can raise a message with SAP if you have doubts. ECC6 has improved functionality that reduces the need for Business area reporting, but I have never heard that SAP does not intend to support.
Use of Business Area is optional, but it is definitely supported in ECC6. And, ECC6 will be in 'standard' maintenance until end of 2015, extended maintenance until end of 2017. Will your consulting contract last longer than that?
At the end of the day, if the client wants it, and it solves his business requirements, and it is currently available, then why shouldn't you accommodate him?
Best Regards,
DB49

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Dear Gurus
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In cancellation of Subcontracting material document for plant B (Movement type 544) Business area appears properly . We are unable to analyse the issue. Request your help.
Appreciate your early response
Regards
Arunjit C

Hi,
I assume you know the GL account that should be posted when doing the GR for subcontrating with movement type 543. Try SA38 report RM07CUFA which compares the movement type field status and the GL account field status.
Maybe business area is suppressed in one of the field status and cannot be posted to?
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I want Business area wise Purchase order

I want Business area wise Purchase order
How I can get these types of output
1.     When I create PO in ME21N without account assignment
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2.     When I create PO in ME21N with account assignment (i.e.
        Business area is defined here) So I can PICK up BA from
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But at the first case I did not find BA in EKKN with respective PO.
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Dear Friend,
                       Now i am facing the same suituation. The requirement is Business area wise Purchase Order Details.
you have mentioned that you solved the problem.
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Urgent Requirement.
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Cash journal and Business Area assignment

Dear Expters,
I have created cash journal with code 1000 and 2000, and similar Business area's BLR and MUM respectivly.
when I clear any pament from cash journal 1000 which is belongs to buiness area MUM (Cross Business transction) system entry is passing like this
BA         G/L
MUM   EXPENSES G/L ....Dr
MUM   Cash G/L ...... Cr
but here the problem is cash journal is belongs to BLR cash should reduce from BLR buiness area.
As per My requirement I need EXP g/l is MUM business area and Cash g/l should be BLR.
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BLR   Cash G/L ...... Cr
we are able to give business area for only EXP g/l. Is there any possiblety when ever i post any transacton through cash journal 1000 business area shoulod pick BLR for Cash G/L. similarly for cash journal 2000 business area should pick MUM even if i given different BA for expense g/l.
Edited by: chandu on Aug 27, 2010 10:07 PM

Split works only for Expenses not Cash. Normally BA is copied from the Expenses GL. I dont think even substitution will work here. Still you can try the below :
Substitution Replace field values - Line Item
Prerequisite :
Transaction Code = 'FBCJ' AND Co.Code = 'XXXX' AND Document Type = 'DZ' (or anything that you have defined in your config)
Substitute :
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Business Area & Profit Centre

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Hi,
What is the difference between Business Area & Profit Centre.
how alternative profit centre is from business are.
any documentation available.
Regards,
Shekar.

Business area:An organizational unit in external accounting, which corresponds to a separate operational or responsibility area in the organization, and value flows recorded in Financial Accounting can be assigned to it.
The business area should be treated as a separate economic unit, for which you can create an internal balance sheet and a profit and loss statement. The business area is, however, only an internal organizational unit and does not have any external impact.
You define business areas if you wish to create a balance sheet and a profit and loss statement for internal areas, in addition to company codes.
Profit Center:
A profit center is an organizational unit in accounting that reflects a management-oriented structure of the organization for the purpose of internal control.
you can use your profit centers as investment centers.
Profit center Accounting at the profit center level is based on costs and revenues. These are assigned statistically by multiple parallel updating to all logistical activities and other allocations of relevance for a profit center.

ASSET MASTER ERROR- BUSINESS AREA IS SUPPRESSED

Hi Friends,
While I am creating Assets in Asset Master AS01 I am getting error
Customizing Inconsistency- Business Area is Suppressed.
Its very urgent any one help me where I can change this field,
I will assign points for a helpful answer
regards
Venu

Hi
Please chek the following
1.Check the field status for the GL account that u have assigned to ur Asset
2.Check the screen layout you have defined for the assets in both places business area should be eighter optional or required field
Inconsistancy occurs when you specify it is optional in step no.1 and required in step2
thenl you have to change eighter in step 1. as required or in step 2 as optional
Cheers
Muralidhar

Business Area in Billing Document

Dear all,
Can you please let me know how the business area is determined in the billing document ( VF01) in Item details (Accounting & Account Assignment).
There is no Assignment of business area at sales area or material / plant level.
I'am creating Billing document based on delivery.
Appreciate your response.
Thanks and Regards
Mahesh

Hi,
Business area can be determind ovf2 ovfo ovf1.
u assign ur plant ovfo.
Define Rules By Sales Area
For business area account determination, you have to define for each sales area the rules according to which the SAP System should find a business area.
Note
If you do not specify a rule for a sales area, account determination cannot be carried out for each business area.
Currently you cannot change the rules for determining the business area in Customizing.
Requirements
The sales areas must already be defined.
Default settings
In the standard SAP R/3 System, three rules are predefined for automatically allocating business areas during revenue account determination:
Rule 1: Business area determination from plant and item division
Rule 2: Business area determination from sales area
Rule 3: Business area determination from sales organization, distribution channel and item division
Actions
1. Check for each sales area the rules according to which business area account assignment should be carried out.
2. Specify one rule for each sales area for determining the business area.
The defined sales areas are automatically displayed for maintenance.
Best regards,
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Can one profit centre be assigned to many business areas?

Hi
Can any one tell me that whether "one profit centre be assigned to many business areas"?
Regards
Rakesh

Dear,
We never assign tehm to ech other,
But both business area and profit centers are created for internal reporting. Now a days profit center is a felling that business area enhancement would not be supported by SAP future version
Business area:An organizational unit in external accounting, which corresponds to a separate operational or responsibility area in the organization, and value flows recorded in Financial Accounting can be assigned to it.
The business area should be treated as a separate economic unit, for which you can create an internal balance sheet and a profit and loss statement. The business area is, however, only an internal organizational unit and does not have any external impact.
You define business areas if you wish to create a balance sheet and a profit and loss statement for internal areas, in addition to company codes.
Profit Center:
A profit center is an organizational unit in accounting that reflects a management-oriented structure of the organization for the purpose of internal control.
you can use your profit centers as investment centers.
Profit center Accounting at the profit center level is based on costs and revenues. These are assigned statistically by multiple parallel updating to all logistical activities and other allocations of relevance for a profit center.
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Business area(STO)

Hi,
We have four Manufacturing plants related to one company code and four Business area plant wise.now they are started depot sales.related to company code.If We are tranfer material from one manufacturing plant(one Business area) to one depot.Business area should update one Business area for both plants.and in same case for all other ,means if we transfer material from second manufacturing plant (Second Business area) to one depot ,Business area should update Second Business area for both plants.
This is requirement from Client.
This is possible to update for one plant to different Business area?
1)
From To
Plant Plant1 Depot1
Business area Bus1 Bus1
2)
Plant Plant2 Depot1
Business area Bus2 Bus2
If it is possible pls Guide me how to do it.
Raghu

Check whether "Plants Abroad" is active in your system. If so, go through the following note:-
Note 1085758 - Plants abroad: Customizing for stock transfer between plants
On the other hand, if it is not activated, then the other reason could be if you define document splitting criteria based on Profit Center and if your billing document contains multiple line items with different profit center, this type of error will come.
To check this, Go to IMG Path > Financial Accounting (New) > General Ledger Accounting (New) > Document Splitting > Define Document Splitting Characteristics for General Ledger. There check whether the mandatory check box is selected for profit Center. So check in your billing document, whether any line item does not have profit center.
Note 1865603 - Error GLT2201 for profit center while account posting- J2IUN
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Error message "No business area can be determined for item 000010"

Hi all,
I had maintained business area assignements.
However, while creating a sales order, the following error message appears : "No business area can be determined for item 000010"
What does it mean ? And how can I fix this problem ?
Regards,
Bahia.
Edited by: Bahia M. on Nov 13, 2008 11:58 AM

Dear Bahia,
Please go to IMG path assign the business area
IMG>Enterprise structure>Assignment>Sales and Distribution>Business Area Account Assignment-->Define Rules By Sales Area(Roule 1)
-->Assign Business Area To Plant And Division
I hope this will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

Business area problem

Sir in tcode VA01 i am getting following error :-
No business area can be determined for item 000010
Messagae no. V1599
Diagnosis
The system could not determine a business area for item 000010. The item has plant AMBA and is assigned to company code ARP for which a business area is required. This is caused by incomplete settings in Customizing.
System response
The system does not allow you to create the item.
Procedure
Before creating the item, make sure that you have completely maintained business area assignments in Customizing.
In which tcode i will have to do customization?
I wait on line.

Hi,
This because the determination rule is not maintained.
If you maintain the determination rule then system will pick up the business based on plant /division
or otherwise based on sales area.
If your triggering the business area based on plant and division then u need to give the rule 1.
T.code:IMG
Enterprise structure>Assignment>Sales and Distribution>Business Area Account Assignment>Define Rules by Sales Area.
1--> based on plant and division
2--> based on Sales Area
3-->Based on Sales Org/distribution channel and division.
Regards
Saju

Business area not appearing in Accounting document of 543's materail doc

Hello ,
We have created new plant CN06 (and assigend to Company code CN06) by copying existing plant CN03 (assigned to Company code CN03). Business area CN06 was defined and assigned to plant CN06 and valuation area. When we do normal GR document business area appears in material document but when we are doing GR for sub contracting (posting key 81) with movement type 543 Business area doesnt appear in the material doc .
In cancellation of Subcontracting material document for plant CN06(Movement type 544) Business area appears properly . We are unable to analyse the issue.
We have checked field status through RM07CUFA program , there wn't be any mismatch. Please required your help.
Regards
Mahesh Naik

Hello ,
We have checked
please check the for the sales area have u assigned rule (2 or 1) or not in t-code OVF2.----- Rule assigned is -1
please check business area is assigned to plant & division in t-code OVF0----correct assignment is there
please check assignment of business area to sales area OVF1.--correct assignment is there .
Still we are facing problem.
Regards
Mahesh Naik

Giving rights of Business Area to Other Users

Hi,
I had created one Business area in user1. How do i give rights of this business area to other user so that the other user can able to use this business area in user edition.
Thanks
Ramesh

Hi Nichole,
Before assigning Business area to Plant/Division , check the DEFINE RULES BY SALES AREA.
Check which value is assigned in that configuration
Path: SPRO-->ENTERPRISE STRUCTURE--->ASSIGNMENT-->SALES & DISTRIBUTION-->BUSINESS AREA ACCOUNT ASSIGNMENT-->DEFIN RULES BY SALES AREA
check this and revert
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santosh

Business Area in MB1B

While doing mb1b with movement type 453,then here business area should pick automatically,how?
Tell me how to configure..
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1. Why you need business area during movement type 453 ? As standard SAP the business area field is hidden from field selection for movement type 453.
2. You can make the field Mandatory for the movement type 453 from OMBW field selection.
3. To make the business area default, as of my knowledge, there are no standard configuration for that. You may use user exit or badi for your requirement.

Business Area in 0PY_C02 cube

Dear Support,
I have designed number reports on cube 0PY_C02 , it is working fine last 2 years.
There is new reqirement of business Area in cube . My query is how to add business area in cube because this live cube on production.
1. 0BUS_AREA is coming in PSA & assigned up to info Source . Should i add one charcetristic in cube & change update rule.
or
2. 0ORGUNIT__0BUS_AREA is navigational attribute , but it is unchecked ( off) .Should i use is .
Because after addition of business area , i should not have any impact on previous query . & business area should be display for old also.
Regards,
Anand Mehrotra.

Hi Anand,
You can check with business if they are OK with the business are of 0ORGUNIT (which is navigational) or they want the one which is being populated as part of transaction.
If they are ok with the business area which is populated as navigational then you need to enable it at info object level and the also in the info cube level.
if its used in MP then make sure its also enabled and identified in the MP as well.
You need to collect the info cube and its transformations n DTP (if these get deactivated while performing this activity) in to New TR and transport it to production.
In this case there is no need for you to change the existing design and queries.
simply if business area is required in the queries you can add this and repair the queries.
second case :
If you are going to add Business area as a new info object to the IC dimensions then you need to change the Transformation, DTP and MP if any.
for this you need to drop the data and reload the data which i dont think business with suggest.
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Regards
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