Business catalyst cost confusion!

Hi guys,
I am a little be confused with business catalyst costs!
I have a yearly Adobe cloud membership !
Could anyone explain if 5 sites could be hosted in business catalyst (no trial versions) and that's included in the cloud membership price?
and if I want 5 mores or 10 sites ?
There is a cusiness catalyst membership pricelist but I don't understand wha't Adobe means with "users" nothing about how many sites in that membership!
here is the pricing http://www.businesscatalyst.com/pricing/monthly
but is it for individuals, just for one site, for already cloud members ? Missing infos...
Could you please help me understand?
AA

Hello,
Along with a yearly subscription of Creative Cloud you get 5 free site (on WebBasics Plan).
If you wish to upgrade the site plan then you would need to purchase that Site plan. Or if you want to have 5 more sites, depending on the siteplan you choose for those sites, you would need to pay for those site plans.
Now the cost and features included in the different site plans is mentioned on thispage : http://www.adobe.com/products/business-catalyst/buying-guide.html
The cost mentioned is per site. So if you have 3 sites on webMarketing plan (On monthly basis) you would be charged US$18.88 per month x3. The users mentioned there are the number of Admin users you can add to the site (who have access to the Admin panel/backend of the site).
Hope this helps.
Regards,
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