Camera.get - USB vs. Firewire

This may not be the right forum, I'm not sure this is a
"code" issue. I am trying to display live video. My project works
GREAT with a Firewire video camera attached - I see live
video in my SWF; but I get no video in my SWF when I attach a USB
2.0 webcam. I don't think this is my code - is this a bug? I am
using Flash MX 2004. The USB webcam works fine with iChat and
QuickTime, just not in Flash. Any ideas on this would be greatly
appreciated.

Its not your code - that's fine. Its nothing to do with
firewire or usb 2.0, as firewire transfer rates are only 400mbps
compared to usb 2.0's 480mbps - the usb should be better. Are you
using a mac? You hardly ever hear of firewires on pcs.
Your problem is to do with the curse of all hardware:
drivers. Now, most drivers are good, and the best are the ones that
come with your pc - the plug in and play ones. These work find with
Flash and are tested and efficient. If your using a Mac, you
would've had the drivers for the firewire, apple likes firewire,
but perhaps not the usb. If you're on a pc, you probably have bad
drivers from a bad company. Logitech are particually bad. Yes, they
are.
Anyhow, what im really trying to get at is its nothing to do
with flash or your code, its the camera's drivers failing to
interact with flash. Either this was a dodgey install or you have a
Mac, which then you have no hope, or just siply flash doesn't like
it. I suggest you put it on a website to test with the people on
this forum.

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