Can Sony's HVR-M10U deck's playback of HDV 1080i 60i footage be captured?

Does anyone know definitively if Sony's HVR-M10U playback of HDV 1080i 60i footage can be captured in FCP?

After a lot of research & trail/error I have successfully captured 1080i 60i footage into FCP 5 using Sony's HVR-M10U deck.
For anyone that's interested here are the links that helped me along:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/review_z1u_hdvfullmer.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/hdvxdvwright.html

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This has always worked for me:
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Make sure your easy set up is correct. For some reason or other, you can have the inidividual settings correct, and things still won't work.
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I'm sorry to ask this but I can't seem to open the apple link that could give me the answer.
I've heard of several issues concerning the compatibility between sony's HVR-M10E deck and Final Cut.
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Since I started editing HDV I've always used Digital Cinema Desktop Preview for monitoring my edits. I suppose due to a lack of computing power it's never looked very good in motion, though it looks nice and clean when stilled. Today I bought an HDMI cable, hoping to allow me to monitor my work in FCP, sending the video via iLink (FireWire) through my Sony HVR-M25U to my HD monitor.
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Shane's Stock Answer #25 - HDV external Monitor Viewing
To view HDV on an external monitor in high definition you are going to need to purchase a capture card, like the ones Decklink (www.decklink.com) or AJA (www.aja.com) offer. They will both play out HDV in real time. The catch is that you cannot view this on a regular TV or NTSC monitor. Since this is HD, an HD monitor will be needed. HOWEVER, both cards are capable of down converting the signal so that it can be displayed on an SD monitor. This won't be color accurate
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Thanks for looking. I just haven't found the Apple tech support people very helpful. It says in their list of supported products that they DO support both the Sony camera and the Sony deck in question.
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301852
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Failing all this, try resetting the PMU (Power Management Unit). The method varies from machine to machine, so visit the Apple site and search for it in support.
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