Cannot deactivate Printer color management (using ICC)

Hello.
Since i move to Windows 7 - 64bits version, i'm not anymore able to print correctly with Lightroom.
If i let the printer to manage completely the color, then it's fine. But in this case i have to use one of the paper recomended by HP.
Now, if i try to use some particular ICC profile (which give me very good result when i was with Windows XP), then the prints will have strange color.
In fact, i found that when i work like this, the color management is not really deactivated on the printer side (even if on screen it seems to be). So, ICC are applied twice each time (First by LR, and secondly by the printer driver).
My question is, what's wrong ?
Is it a LR issue or a printer driver issue ?
Note:
- I don't have this problem when printing from Photoshop CS5.
- The printer model is HP Photosmart Pro B9180 and i already install the latest driver available.
Thank you.
Re dy

If you can't disable colour management in the printer drivers for some reason, then let the printer manage the colour and assign the profile there.
The HP Printer Utility should contain a mechanism for adding custom paper types and their ICC profiles (at least it does on other high end HP printers)
Can't understand why you can't disable colour management in the printer drivers. I haven't used this particular model but on other HP printers I have used you could do this in the drivers.

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