Cannot set Block Size

Hi all,
 
When I tried to create a database 11g using DBCA, I noticed the tool did not allow me to select the block size. It was automtically set to 8KB without being able to modify it.
 
Is there any reason for that?
 
os: windows xp sp2

When you create a new database you have two options when using the dbca, create it by using a seed database (by means of a cloning procedure) or create a completely new database (customized). If you choose the first option, then you must adopt the physical structure from the seed database, which by default is 8k and there is no way to change it. If you create a completely new database you can modify the block size since there is no physical structure yet.
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Connected.
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SQL> Rem Copyright (c) 2006, Oracle. All rights reserved.
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SQL> Rem DESCRIPTION
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ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00349: failure obtaining block size for '+Z'
ORA-06512: at line 14
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888442 wrote:
I am trying to drop and recreate ONLINE redo logs on my STANDB DATABASE (11.1.0.7)., but i am getting the below error.
On primary, we have done the changes., ie we added new logfile with bigger size and 3 members. When trying to do the same on Standby we are getting this error.
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ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00349: failure obtaining block size for '+DT_DG1'First why you are dropping & recreating online redo log files on standby.
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MEMBER
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C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\REDO01.LOG
sys@ORCL> alter database add logfile group 4 (
2     'C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\redo_g01a.log',
3     'C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\redo_g01b.log',
4     'C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\redo_g01c.log') size 10m;
Database altered.
sys@ORCL> select member from v$logfile;
MEMBER
C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\REDO03.LOG
C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\REDO02.LOG
C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\REDO01.LOG
C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\REDO_G01A.LOG
C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\REDO_G01B.LOG
C:\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORCL\REDO_G01C.LOG
6 rows selected.
sys@ORCL>
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Wojtus-J wrote:
We are preparing to implement Data Warehouse on Oracle 11g R2 and currently I am trying to set up some storage strategy - unfortunately I have very little experience with that. With little experience, the key feature is to avoid big mistakes - don't try to get too clever.
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