Cannot shrink the undo tablespace

Hello!
I have run a very long procedure, which generated 15GB undo information. Now I can see in the enterprise manager, that the undo tablespace is empty again. I tried to resize the datafile, but I receive "*ORA-03297*: file contains used data beyond requested RESIZE value". How can I shrink the tablespace without dropping and recreating it?
I tried also
purge recyclebin;
I still get ORA-03297 if I try to resize the datafile.
I wanted to try something like
ALTER TABLE xxxxx UNALLOCATE UNUSED;
or
ALTER TABLE xxxxx SHRINK SPACE;
but are there any tables that save the undo information?
Regards.

Hi
well, my transaction is ready! The undo tablespace has not more that 10M of information, the other 15G are free!
Thanks for the answers, it seems that i still have recreate it ...
Well, another quertion:
Is it possible, that I just have to wait longer before I resize the undo data file? I have just succeeded in resizing the data file to 7 GB. I really wish I could shrink it to 100M or so, but still - from 15G to 7G is a lot better! 2 hours ago this action was not possible. Is it some automatic management, that needs to time-out before I can shrink the undo tablespace?
Edited by: user10962462 on Apr 8, 2009 2:39 AM

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