Catalog database sizing questions

Hi There,
We need to create an RMAN catalog that would be able to support 8 databases 5 of which are around 50gb(40GB db files+10gb arcglogs) and the remaing 3 are about 120gb (100 db files and 20 archlogs).
Does anyone have any sizing recommendations regarding memory structures (sga, pga, large pool)? disk space? We are using Oracle 11.1.0.7 on windows 2008 server. The server itself is an intel box, dual core E5440 - with 16gb RAM.
Thanks

Hi rsar001,
The size of the catalog schema and database in your setup will not grow to more than 1GB (as long as you maintain a retention policy).
Just set sga_target to 1G.
As an example I have around 100 databases with sizes bewteen 10 GB and 2T and run a daily backup on all of them retention policy 1 month.
The catalog is and stays around 700M for more than 2 years.
Rgds,
Tycho

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