Collect message till particular point of Time in BPM

Hi,
I want to collect messages till particular point in time like till 6 oclock evening.
In deadline branch i have to use Expression and should give date and time.
What is the format of date and time if it is not coming in payload.
What is the difference between: Creating the step and Creating the process property.
Any help is apreciated.
Thanks and regards,
Satish

The date and time format will be the standard XSD date and time format
Date:
YYYY-MM-DD or YYYY-MM-DDZ
Time:
HH:MM:SS or HH:MM:SS.x
But since your requirement is to collect the messages till 6pm everyday, I guess there is a problem with the mandatory date field.
Maybe you can use a datatype which holds the current time in a field and use the field as the loop variable.
- Kannan

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