Colours in 'Print with Preview' window are wrong

I am using Photoshop CS on a Mac G4 (PPC) with OS X 10.4.11.
I usually use 'Print with Preview' to print photographs. I used to get good results, but something seems to have changed (or I have accidentally changed a setting somewhere). When I open an image in Photoshop, the colours on my monitor (which I regularly calibrate) look right. But when I go to 'Print with Preview', the image shown in the small layout window is now much darker, reds are more brown and in general the colours look quite wrong. And what is even worse is that when I print, the results match the wrong colours in the Preview window and not the correct colors that I see when I look at the image directly in Photoshop.
I attach a screenshot, showing (on the left) a colour test image opened directly in Photoshop CS and (on the right) how it looks in the Preview window.
Can anyone suggest what may have gone wrong? I should be very grateful for suggestions.

The words that helped [me] the most to understand Photoshop color management theory are:
Color Management starts with a good monitor profile (to PROOF the color accurately on the monitor), and Color Management ends with a good target profile to PROOF the color accurately on the print.
The file (the document's Source Color Space) is independent of Photoshop:
The Color Management System CMS, Photoshop, ONLY uses the monitor profile for one thing: To PROOF source file on the monitor (the monitor profile has zero to do with how the file prints).
The Color Management System CMS, Photoshop, ONLY uses the printer (target) profile Print Space for one thing: To PROOF source file on the paper (the printer profile Print Space has zero to do with how the file looks on the monitor).
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While this simple PROOFING ANALOGY doesn't address the pitfalls of relying on a bad monitor to evaluate and adjust digital color, it does make two important facts about Photoshop and professional color-managed printing workflows:
1) The printer can PROOF (print) the source file faithfully regardless of how right or wrong the monitor is set up, and
2) The monitor can PROOF (display) the source file faithfully regardless of how right or wrong the printer is set up.
Getting a known good file (like the Adobe RGB—or better yet the ProPhoto RGB—PDI Photodisc-GettyImages RGB reference image) into Photoshop allows me to evaluate the monitor alongside the print to help me identify where the problem is occurring.
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BTW, thank you for the helpful and solved hits.

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Ok, it's not ink, so I'll take another shot at this one.
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