Compile archlinux from scratch ??

Is possible to recompile archlinux from scratch ? from sources ? like gentoo (Stage 1 2 3) ??

I know it's common to try and "solve" a problem by providing what you asked for, but I want to attack this from a different angle:
Why do you want to do this?  If you're looking to actually start up a "port" to a different architecture, it's fairly complicated and not recommended if you don't really know all the details.  If you just want to compile "because it's faster" I can tell you that there will positively be no difference in speed after you recompile everything.  Your biggest jumps would be in compiling maybe the kernel, glibc, X, and your WM for your architecture.  I wouldn't compile everything.

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    #-- docs: Save doc and info directories
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    mucknert wrote:No, I mean that optimizing Arch beyond i686 will not give you any noticable gain in performance (it's somewhere around 1%). I don't say that Metadistributions are useless: they fit people that need the feeling of "being in control", whatever that means. Please don't turn my words around, I've never stated that Gentoo is useless.
    Optimizations are not useless in general either. Saying that would be pretty one-sided and not true at all. I want to say that Arch is reasonably optimized already and any other tweaking will mean a lot of wasted cycles for only a small gain, if any at all.
    Mmm... you convinced me... at the end a 1% or 2% gain of performances is useless.
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