Compiz launched in .xinitrc breaks keys, launched normally: ok

I've found out something weird..
If I start compiz fusion or fusion-icon trough ~/.xinitrc or another script called by ~/.xinitrc then my up arrow doesn't work anymore + ctrl-c becomes ctrl-i (my layout is dvorak, c in dvorak is where i is in qwerty).
However, once I have my desktop I can killall compiz and restart it (or restart fusion-icon) or even do 'reload window manager' in fusion-icon, and then those problems are gone.
Also, I can just not start it in ~/.xinitrc and launch it myself manually when my panels etc are loaded.  Then I don't have the problem either.
Even when compiz/fusion-icon is the very last item in ~/.xinitrc, I have this problem
Anyone an idea?
dieter@dieter-ws ~ $pacman -Qs compiz
local/ccsm 0.7.8-2 (compiz-fusion compiz-fusion-gtk compiz-fusion-kde)
    Compizconfig Settings Manager in Python
local/compiz-bcop 0.7.8-1
    Compiz option code generator
local/compiz-core 0.7.8-1 (compiz compiz-kde compiz-gtk compiz-fusion)
    Composite manager for Aiglx and Xgl
local/compiz-fusion-plugins-extra 0.7.8-1 (compiz-fusion compiz-fusion-gtk compiz-fusion-kde)
    Compiz Fusion Extra plugins
local/compiz-fusion-plugins-main 0.7.8-2 (compiz-fusion compiz-fusion-kde compiz-fusion-gtk)
    Compiz Fusion Main plugins
local/compizconfig-python 0.7.8-1
    Compizconfig bindings for python
local/fusion-icon 20080313-1 (compiz-fusion compiz-fusion-kde compiz-fusion-gtk)
    Simple tray icon for compiz
local/libcompizconfig 0.7.8-1
    Compiz configuration system library

elmer_42 wrote:If you are using Compiz in addition to another DE/WM, you may be able to start it through an autostart feature included in the software.
maybe if that "autostart feature" would reset the environment or something.
I'm using dautostart (see http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57255 ) which is an xdg-compliant autostarter (xdg standards are also used by kde,gnome, xfce etc).
dautostart is launched from .xinitrc (I tried to change the position of the dautostart command in the .xinitrc file, but no change), and I notice the same behavior (eg compiz/fusion-icon launched through dautostart gives the same as when i launch compiz/fusion-icon from .xinitrc directly)

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