CONDITION BASE VALUE / ALT CALCULATION TYPE Pricing

Dear All,
I have a scenario where in I want the condition base value for calculating the value for a condition type to be based on
Gross weight - Net weight value of a material.
Is it possible and if yse how do I acheive the same.
Deepak

Deepak,
Alternative Calculation Type:
Normally if you want to calculate a value you have to use a calculation type for determinating the value. This calculation type is either addition, subtraction or multiplication. Similarly SAP also has got a default calculation type in the control data of the condition type. There you have the options of either Qty based , Fixed Amount Based or Percentage based.
Here what happens is suppose if you define Your condition type that calculates the base price of a material on Qty based. Then the calculation will be done based on the quantity of the material. If the customer orders 10 Nos and you have maintained a unit price of 100 Rs for each material then the value determined is 1000 INR. Similarly if the discount condition type , you maintain the calculation type as %. This means if you maintain the value of 10 % in the condition record. Then this percentage is taken as the calculation type and the condition value is determined.
In some cases you have to forego the default calculation types and use the customer specific method for calculating a value. For ex if you are calculating the Freight charges for a Material . it depends on so many criteria like, the weight, volume and also the minimum amount etc etc, in those cases, you forego the default value and then use the alternative calculation type in calculating the condition value against the particular condition.
Alternative Condition Base value :
If you have to calculate any value then you have to have a base value for it. For ex if you want to calculate the discount of 10 % for a material then you have to have a base value on which this 10% is calculated. Normally you take the condition value of the base price of the material to calculate the value.
Now you don't want to take the base value and take other values as base value which are derived on some formulae. So you create a routine which will do the mathematical operations in the routine and derive you a value which is now used as the base value for calculating the condition value for a particular condition type.
Reward poitns if u finds this helpful....
Regds
MM

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Requirement, alt conditiion base value,alt .caluculatin type

Hai,
Suppose a business requirment in pricing is to develop a routine.How can i come to a decision that i need to write a routine in
"REQUIREMENT"
"ALT CAL TYPE"
"ALT CONDITION BASE VALUE" fields.
Plz suggest me;

hi,
Hope this can help you,
Pricing requirements are typically used to define when an access should be made in pricing. They
can be assigned to a condition type in a pricing procedure or to an individual access in an access
sequence. An access will only be made if the requirement is met. Using requirements can improve
performance by eliminating unnecessary accesses to the database.
When pricing is carried out for a sales document, the system processes the pricing procedure one step
at a time. For example, the user may have listed condition type PR00 first to determine the price. If
a requirement has been assigned to PR00 in the pricing procedure, the system will check to see if it is
met. If it is met, the system continues to look for prices using the assigned access sequence. If it is
not met, the system skips that condition type and goes to the next level of the pricing procedure. The
same holds true for the individual levels of the access sequence. If a requirement is assigned, the
access is only made if the requirement is met.
Condition base value formulas can be used to influence the condition basis to which the pricing condition rate will be applied. In standard pricing, the system will apply the condition rate to the quantity in the sales document. For example, the price determined by the system is $45 per case for Product A. 100 cases of Product A have been ordered. The system would then multiply $45 times the number of cases of Product A ordered. Using a condition base value formula, it is possible to alter the condition base, in our example 100, prior to the calculation taking place. A condition base value formula is commonly used to determine the base for distributing header discounts / surcharges to the sales document line items. A condition base value formula is assigned to a condition type in the pricing procedure.
Condition value formulas are available to influence the condition value that is displayed for a particular condition type or value line in the pricing procedure. In standard pricing, the system will calculate the condition value by multiplying the condition rate by the quantity. For example, 100 cases times $45 per case equals $4,500. Using a condition value formula, it is possible to alter the condition value, in our example $4,500. Condition value formulas can also be used to compute values that should appear as value lines in the pricing procedure. As an example, standard delivered condition value formulas can be used to compute profit margin and item net value. A condition value formula is assigned to a condition type in the pricing procedure.
Regards,
Shekhar

Alternative calculation type and alternative condition base value

In pricing procedure what is the difference between alternative calculation type and alternative condition base value?Kindly help

Hi,
Please check the forum before you post your questions as this question was answered a number of times earlier.
Please check the below link which discusses in detail regarding the same.
[Alt Cal Type and Cond Base Value|Alternative calculation type and alterantive condition base value in pricin;
Regards,
Phani Prasad

Change Condition Base Value in Billing Process.

Dear SAP experts
for now, In third-party process, condtion base value of billing only come from oder doc's.
but we want to change condition base value of billing from PO doc's for some condition type.
(actually, we want PO Quantity as a condition base value in billing process)
where can i apply alternative solution?
Regards.
Juyoung

HI,
To elaborate, you can change the condition base value settings in the pricing procedure for the condition type.
Take help of ABAPer and let him know what exact qty or value you want system to pick up while processing billing docs.
Prior to do any changes, please also ceck if the new changes are impacting any old logics...
Hope it helps..
Regards,
SB.

Differance betwwen alternative calculation type & condition base value.

dear expert
wats the differance betwwen alternative calculation type & condition base value in pricing.
vicky

Hi,
AltCty - Condition formula for alternative calculation type:
It is an alternative formula for the condition type that can be used instead of standard formulas.
For example, let us take the Profit Margin which can be both + / - , so here this routine will help us in generating the value which can be either + or -. Profit margin is not a condition type so it cannot be classified as +ve or -ve in the V/06.Ex.: 950 0 Profit Margin 11. So we assign 11 - Profit Margin.
AltCBV - Alternative formula for condition base value:
Formula for determining the condition basis as an alternative to the standard.
It is used as a basis to calculate value of the condition type instead of using it from the "FROM" column.
Ex.: Freight - KF00. Freight is calculated based on weight, volume etc. and not on the base price. In pricing there is no entry of weight from which the value can be referred like we do for discounts using base price. We have to get the value from the Material master. In this column we can mention the value as 12 - Gross Weight or 13 - Net Weight.
During pricing, the system will consider the value that is mentioned in this column and determine the freight based on this value.
Suppose we have Net weight: 100 kgs and Gross Weight: 150 kgs. And if we mention 13 in this column then the Freight condition KF00 will be calculated using the weight as 100 kgs.
And both of them are routines written by APABers in VOFM.
Reg,
JJ

Condition Type JSRT not picking Condition Base Value in Pricing Procedure

Hi Friends,
In a procedure System is not picking condition base value for condition type JSRT. I have checked the tax procedure and found alternative Cal Type is 17 and is working fine for Domestic vendors.
Friends i need your help in sorting out this issue. Pls suggest what I can check in order to sort out this issue.
Rgds, Krishan Raheja

Hello!
In TAXINN the base value for the condition JSRT is picked up from step 100.
I suggest that you change the "From" value to 100 instead of whatever you may be using
Then test the transaction once again.This will not affect your normal service tax calculation either. So please make this change & try using S1 for planned delivery cost.
Hope this helps !
Cheers!
Plauto
Edited by: Plauto Abreu on Feb 11, 2011 9:03 PM

Change the Condition base value in a Condition type.

Hi Experts,
I have a problem because I need to change the condition base value for a condition type. This condition base is calculated as a result of other condition types in the list of pricing Elements. I would need to change the base in order to solve the problem.
Thank you and best regards.

Hi Alberto
if i get it correctly , this is your scenario
condition 1--- price x
condition 1--- price Y
condition 1--- price z
now you want a fourth conddition with base value total of the above 3
if so , you maybe define all the above 3 as statistical ,
in another row , create a total of the above 3,
assign a sub total this ,
create new conditon type and in its alt base value , give the formalue for the sub total
for eg 5 for sub toal 1, 6 for sub total 2
and then you would get the right base value
Hope this helps
Thanks
Akasha

Creation of a new Formula Routine for condition base value calculation

hello people,
i am stuck up in a situation where SAP has itself said that nothing can be done.
but i know you all can guide me to some way or the other
see, the scenario is like this
1. i have to calculate the base value for a pricing condition.
which will follow the formula
net value + excise duty + freight
2. in standard routines two things are normally bieng used
xkwert for the value that has to be finally calculated(taking reference of routine 004)
komp-netwr for the net value
3. i have to calculate the excise duty by adding up all the base values of existing pricing conditions like JMOP, JEC1 etc that i have which i saw in internal table
XKOMV on debugging
4. now freight is to be calculated from all the values of condition types that are in KOMP which is a structure and no internal table is defined in standard main program
now ppl
can you guide me by looking at the standard program
what is this xkwert field and where it is assigning the value.
how to get field from other structure and table.
please guide as to how to approach the problem.
thanks and regards
Nitin

HI,
the scenario u r talking abt is condition based value formuls of VOFM transaction.
here the data is retrieved as 'X' structures and will hold normal tables with respective names. and in this case all the pricing data is in KOMV ie XKOMV
Final amount including tax
form frm_kond_basis_004.
xkwert = komp-netwr + komp-mwsbp.
endform.
always calulation is done in xkwert field and final value is stoerd in xkomv.
*.................. text ............................................. *
Condition base value formula to get the assessable value of the     *
saleable material from j_1iassval. If the value is not maintained   *
then the selling price will be taken as the base                    *
TABLES: J_1IASSVAL.
DATA XXKOMV LIKE KOMV .
XXKOMV = XKOMV.
SELECT SINGLE * FROM J_1IASSVAL WHERE J_1IWERKS = KOMP-WERKS AND
                                     J_1IMATNR = KOMP-MATNR.
IF SY-SUBRC EQ 0.
    IF J_1IASSVAL-J_1IVALNDP NE 0.
    XKWERT = J_1IASSVAL-J_1IVALNDP * KOMP-MGLME / 1000.
    ENDIF.
    IF J_1IASSVAL-J_1IVALASS NE 0.
    XKWERT = J_1IASSVAL-J_1IVALASS * KOMP-MGLME / 1000.
    ENDIF.
ELSE.
   XKWERT = XXKOMV-KAWRT .
ENDIF .
XKOMV = XXKOMV .
ENDFORM.
and as far as ur req select allthe condition type data and sum and take the average value and pass it.

Alternative calculaton type/ condition base value/requirement

Hi
What is the role of alternative calculaton type, condition base value,requirement in pricing procedure.?
2) Where do we define value for alternative condition base value and alternative calculation type so that system picks up different value,when the value for alternative condition base value and alternative calculation type is mention in pricing procedure.

Dear,
*Alternative Calculation Type:*
This function allows you use a formula as an alternative in finding the value of the condition type, instead of standard condition technique. this can be used to calculate complex tax structures.
Alternative condition base value
The alternative condition base value is a formula assigned to a condition type in order to promote an alternative base value for the calculation of a value.
Example
An absolute header discount is, for example, distributed in the standard system according to the cumulative value of the items.
If the system distributes the absolute header discount according to volume based on the Alternative formula for condition base value , a header discount of $30 results in the following discounts:
Item Value Volume .
1 $1000 2 cbm
2 $500 4 cbm
Stand. disc. Volume disc.(With Formula)
$20 $10
$10 $20
Condition formula for alternative calculation type
Alternative formula to the formula in the standard system that determines a condition.
Requirement
This function is used to assign a requirement to the condition type. This requirement can be used to exclude the system from accessing the condition type and trying to determine the value. This can be used to specify that the condition type should only be accessed if the customer has a low risk credit.
with regards

How to display modified condition base value in Pricing Procedure?

Hi everyone:
I used a formula to change the condition base value (via the VOFM transaction) of various price conditions that are assigned to the same material. In this way, I can distribute the total quantity of the item line in smaller quantities for each price condition.
Now the problem is that in the conditions tab of the sales order, I can not see the Condition Base Value of each Price Condition, and that's a little confusing.
Did Anyone know's a way to show the modified Condition Base Value in the Pricing Procedure of the Condition Tab?
Thanks a lot,
Ginno Giuffra

Thanks JJ:
Yes, I can found the modified base value in the condition details, but I still need to show it in the Pricing Procedure scheme.
It is curious that the table options does not allow you to add that field to the escheme.
Does anyone knows a user exit wich can modifye the table?
Thanks again,
Ginno Giuffra

Wrong condition base value when an order is copied from another order

I am copying sale order to sale order and encounter an issue with pricing .
I have an excise condtion for which the condition basis is the price condition . I copy the order and update the pricing in the new document ( I have to do this because the pricing type in copy controls is A ) . The price is being copied and the value calcualated as per the order quantity . But the same value is not flowing as the condition base value for the excise condition type mentioned above. It is taking some different value as the base value . There is no alt base value assigned in the procedure.
As per the settings in the procedure , the condtion value of the price should be the base value for the excise condition type and this is not happening
Could somebody throw light as to what is going wrong ?
Thanks in advance
Regards
Mahesh

Many thanks for this.
I can see entirely why it's designed as such, but I just find it slightly frustrating that there's no way to break the link between the order and the shipment out to the depot. Just to clarify, we're not requiring the orders to change - they will still be made and will come in - but just that the orders themselves don't specifically need to be the stock that is used for the replenishment.
So -
1. Min Max identifies depot needs replenishing.
2. Central distribution does not have (enough) stock to replenish.
3. Order is made to replenish central distributions stock.
4. We ship whatever we've got, when we've got it, to depot to replenish.
It's the bit where Min-Max is trying to replensih a specific depot rather than our central distribution centre that's my problem.
I suspect that, as you say, that specific issue is not directly fixable without getting our IT contractors to do a customisation.
I'm going to look into your Supply Date Offset suggestion now, though I'm not sure how this affects the shipping after the orders are placed. The orders themselves are approved manually after we've checked our stock position (i.e. what's in with the recycling team), but we recycle & refurb probably 60% of our maint stock so there'll always be kit turning up after the order has been made because of the long lead times.
Thanks again.

Condition Base Value Routine

Hello all,
I am currently facing an issue where we have created a Custom Condition Base value routine for a Tax Condition type.
In our scenario, we have Sales Tax condition type ZZTX which has the following parameters:
Cond. class       D Taxes
Calculat.type     A Percentage
Cond.category D Tax
Rounding rule       Commercial
Also since its a tax condition type, it is set to D - cannot be modified manually.
Also in the pricing procedure, the condition type is pointing row 301 to pickup the condition value basis. This is for the normal scenarios. However when a particular condition is satisfied (which is coded in routine 902 for ZZTX) the code in 902 is supposed to change the condition base value for ZZTX.
800     0     ZZTX     Tax for Sales     301                       10          902     MWS
This functionality is not working at this point. When I debug, I can see the code appending the calculated value to the condition base value for ZZTX.
However on the screen, I still see the condition base value being picked up from row 301.
I need some input from you guys so as to find it the condition type zztx should have some parameters set to allow the change or is there a problem in the 902 routine ?
Kindly advise
Thanks
Vin

Hi Vin,
Please check with your ABAP expert if he has done below to fetch calculated value to hold it correctly,
   l_val_190    TYPE kwert,   l_val_210    TYPE kbetr,
I guess it is to do with Data type only in your 902 routine
Hope this will solve your probelm,
Regards,
Siva

Used of 362 & 363 Alternative formula for condition base value in Define Procedures (Tcode obyz)

Dear
what is the used of 362 & 363 Alternative formula for condition base value in Define Procedures (Tcode obyz)

362 is used for to pick base value to BASB condition type from MM pricing procedure
363 is used for all sales tax {VAT (Inventory or set -off) & CST}.
Tax Calculation on Freight - Different Scenarios
Please go through this link and you will know very well a bout 362 and 363 usage

Alternative formula for condition base value -correct routine

Hi ,
We need correct standard routine number in "Alt. formula for condition base value " in transaction V/08 pricing control .
Requirement As follow :
We have one header freight condition which is header condition and group condition in V/06 condition type setting . Lets Say " ZFRIG " the value in this condition should equally approtionate to all the items in SO .
Ex: ZFRIG = $100 in SO header
item 10 = ZFRIG should be $20
item 20 = ZFRIG should be $20
item 30 = ZFRIG should be $20
item 40 = ZFRIG should be $20
item 50 = ZFRIG should be $20
Suitable standard routine solution will be appreciated.
Thanks in Advance
Sunil

Hi ,
Without any Routine it adds $100 to all the line iteam , so total fright discount becomes $500.
Thanks and regards.
Sunil

Condition formula for alternative calculation type

Hi gurus,
we need to create some condition formulas to be applied in our pricing procedure.
Do you know where to program them in the system and what additional settings are required?
Thanks and best regards,
VL

Hi Victor,
For your query, you can create new alternative calculation or alternative condition base values in T-COde VOFM with the help of an ABAP.
Go to VOFM T-CODE
Then Click on Formulas then condition value or condition base value.
You need to take Acces key from basis team to create a new calculation type for that number should start from 900 to 999.
Tell you Abaper to take the values from internal table XKOMV, XKOMK, KONDI, XKONP there are many internal tables are there, from that you will get respective conditon type values.
In internal table KBETR field contains condition record value & KWERT contains the calculated value.
Read wrt condition tyep and calculate according that and pass the value.
Try this, which will help you in resolving your query.
If satisfied close the thread.
Regards,
Nagesh

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