Copy ASM files to filesystem when DB not mounted?

hi,
as far as i know, ASM files can only be copied to the file system by using RMAN.
my problem: i´ve got one data and one log partition (both ASM).
disks of data partition crashed, log partition is ok. i need the archived logs from the last backup timestamp until now, but can not access them with rman because i cannot mount the database.
any ideas how to solve this problem?
thanks!

Many ideas (if I would know the ASM version). Fortunately we don't have to start with Oracle version 6.
10gR1 would be bad
10gR2 read this, how to transfer ASM datafiles outside RMAN:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/06-mar/o26asm.html
11gR1 read about asmcmd:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/server.111/b31107/asm_util.htm#BJEGEAAJ
Werner

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    My goal is to consolidate the two drives down to one, delete as many images along the way that I know I will never miss, then backup the catalog and export it to an external drive and then copy that to yet another drive for offside storage.  Does this sound like the proper plan?  Last time it took almost 24 hours and over a terabyte to export the catalog.
    DUPLICATION:  I also have many file folders that have the exact same image in them.  One portfolio image may actually be in eight different folders, with the exact file, file name, file size, and date, even though I always have checked "no duplicates on import,"  How can this be? What is the best way to sort through duplicates?  Why are the files in some of the duplicate folders not in numerical order? If I do a search and call up a file # and find 15 duplicates, the only way I can find where those duplicates reside is to take each duplicate, right click to Locate Folder in Library, then once I find it, I have to go back to All Photographs>Text.search for file #, go to the second duplicate, right click to Locate Folder in Library, then once I find it, I have to do it all again.  Is there a simpler way to see all the occurrences in their respective folder locations at once?
    SEARCH BY FILE FOLDER NAME ONLY: I also find I can't search for a file using a folder name (for example, "John_Doe").  I can only search by file #, keywords, or camera/lens/date, etc.  Why will it not work to use All Photographs>Text>search for Doe? In other words, if I didn't keyword the individual files as John Doe, I can't search for them by that moniker.
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    A brief and probably non-helpful answer: I know of no way to eliminate your large amount of duplicates other than by repetitive, tedious manual effort.
    *There has got to be a simpler way.*
    I hope you're right, but I don't think there is a simpler way.
    BACKUP:  It also appears that the only way I can back up the catalog is to shut down LR.  Really?!
    Yes, really

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    You would have to give more details like what you are doing to the document, what kind of document, and what the two sizes are.
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