Core 2 Duo versus new core i3/i5

Will the new upgrade to i3/i5 make a serious difference?
I've barely had the Core 2 Duo out of the box for a month and already its been 'refreshed.' Not to mention the price drop...

Yeah I was in the same boat as you. I got my 27" dou core 3.06 ghz iMac at BestBuy a little over a month ago. Luckily my graphics card or hard drive started going out so I returned it. Since I'm a premier silver rewards zone member, I have 45 days to return items with no restocking fee. They gave me a replacement right there on the spot, but when I got home I noticed a dead pixel right in the middle of the screen. I took it back for the 2nd time. When they went to the back to get me another one, they returned with the new 2010 27" iMac i3. For all my troubles they gave me a 10% discount off the price and a $30 gift card. I'm really glad they did that! They weren't even supposed to have the new ones in stock yet. They had to get special permission to sell it to me.
As far as the difference between the two... the new imac is about 16% faster and has a better graphics card.

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Ok, I am really in doubt at this moment. I can buy a second hand Macbook 1.83 Core Duo with 2 Gb mem. for EUR 950 which seems like a good deal to me, but... should it be a better choice to go for the second generation Core Duo processors of the current Mac Books considering the upcoming OS? Or is speed more about internal mem than CPU? Can anyone figure this one out for me?
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We really can't answer this one for you - it really comes down to personal preference and what you are planning to use the laptop for. Check out the technical differences between the two and think about whether or not the differences are really important to you. There are three big differences, off the top of my head:
- Core duo is 32-bit, while Core 2 duo is 64-bit.
- Core 2 duo ships with an 802.11n capable wireless chipset
- Battery life seems a bit longer with Core 2 duo, and it tends to run a bit cooler.
There are quite a few more minor differences between the two (and several not-so-minor ones that I'm forgetting about, I'm sure). If your price for the core duo is significantly lower than the newer core 2 duo, and if the differences between them don't really matter to you, then I see no reason not to go with the cheaper laptop.

JUST Bought MacBook Pro 17-inch 2.16 Intel Core Duo and NEW to MAC's.

Like the title says I just bought a MacBook Pro and I have NEVER used Mac's in my entire life. I have always been using Windows ever since I was born. But I am heading to college and wanted a change. I was wondering if there is any quick tips or things to know about my MacBook Pro before I get it in the mail? Especially because I've been a Windows person my whole life. Also, I feel like I should have bought the Mac right before I leave for college but that's the end of August and I needed to buy this before I headed to college to test it out. I just don't want to get it and then a newer MacBook comes out. I know that no one knows for sure but do you think that will happen?

Welcome. It will be easier to answer if you say something about what you're interested in and how you might want to use the computer. There are things I do with every new Mac, but they probably wouldn't interest most people. (E.g. I go into the preferences/keyboard/modifiers and turn caps lock into control. I'm an old-time Unix guy who spends a lot of time at the command line.)
Some specific advice on taking a machine to college. This advice all applies to Macs and PCs
* make sure you have a scheme for backing up your data. I recommend using a Firewire disk. There are lots of ways to do the backup. You'll see plenty of discussions in these groups. If you don't want to buy a Firewire disk you can use other media, but generally those aren't big enough or fast enough to let you do a full backup of your machine. You'll need to locate the folders where you save files and backup just those. WIth the Mac you can do bootable backups. If you lose your disk you can actually boot off the Firewire disk and run that way until you get your disk fixed. Note that this works with Firewire but not USB. Despite the advertising, you really want to use Firewire for external disks, not USB 2.
* if you haven't done so already, get Applecare. Portables are much more likely to need repair. If you don't have Applecare the repairs can be quite expensive. Apple has pretty good service.
* make sure you bring all your distribution CDs and DVDs with you. If things go very wrong you may have to reinstall, and you'll need the media with you. (Actually this advice applies more to PCs, where you have to reinstall to recover from a variety of problems. That's less common on Macs, and if you do have to there's a neat procedure -- archive and install -- to preserve your data during a reinstall.)
* make sure you have enough memory. With your machine I recommend at least 1 GB. the default of 512 MB tends to lead to a sluggish machine.
* make sure you understand the security features of OS X. Turn on the firewall. Be careful about opening attachments and browsing to questionable sites. University networks tend to see a lot more security problems than a typical home environment, though home broadband connections are pretty dangerous these days as well.
* check out your school's acceptable use policy and network access policies.
* depending upon your discipline I might recommend installing either Boot Camp or Parallels and then installing either Windows or Linux as a secondary OS. Anyone who is serious about learning computer technology should run Linux (thought not necessarily as the primary OS).
There will always be newer models. A 2.16 GHz Core Duo should be fine for several years. Not necessarily all 4 years though. That's pushing it, particularly with a portable.

Problem connecting MacBookPro Core Duo to New Airport extreme

I have just bought a new Airport Extreme and both my Core 2 Duo and G5 iMac connect to the internet fine.
I rent a flat out to tenants downstairs and my tenant shares my internet connection using a number of Macs. However he cannot connect his Core Duo MacBook Pro.
Looking in System Preferences Network I note that it tells me that :
Airport is connected to the network "Internet". Airport has a self assigned IP Address and may not be able to connect to the internet"
Looking under TCP/IP the setting is set to Using DHCP. However rather than having a 10.0.1.200 address it has 169.254.231.100 and the Subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 instead of 255.255.255.0 and it cannot see the router 10.0.1.1.
Any thoughts. Does it need a firmware update or something

I assume you are not using one of the "n" only settings on the AEBS. With the radio mode set to "n" only, the core duo will not see the base station. This discussion might help-http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4155162&#4155162

Refurbished MacBook Core Duo or New MacBook Core 2 Duo w/Edu Discount?

I'm interested in getting an Apple notebook for school and can't decide whether to get the new MacBook Core 2 Duo and use my student discount or just get a refurbished MacBook Core Duo for a few hundred less. Is the Core 2 Duo chip worth the extra money? I plan on using it for my design courses, which use the Adobe and Macromedia suite of applications. Oh, and I plan on playing WoW on it as well.
Thanks!

Well theres a few important details here:
What version of the Core Duo were you after (Basic Middle or Black) for refurb?
What version are you thinking of for the Edu Discount?
Personally i'm going to university next year and am Planning on buying a Macbook in about March or June (What ever model is out then hopefully a 3rd revision). But from what is out the greatest value out of all Macbooks to date is the Middle Version of the MBC2D.
In the Core Duo generation, the jump from basic to Middle wasn't big. You got a slightly faster processor and Super Drive. Now for the same price difference you not only get the bonus C2D processor you get 1GB of Ram, A Superdrive, and a 80 GB Hard drive. For that reason, the best value i would say is the middle version of the C2D Macbooks.
You may not think that you really need 1 GB of Ram or a 80 GB Harddrive but after using a mac mini (which i unfortunately returned) I quickly realized how slow these machines are without sufficient ram. If you plan on using the Adobe suite which is not yet UB you will have a rough time without at least one gig of ram. By then it would probably be UB, but still, programs like Photoshop and Cinema 4D (If you are taking any computer animation courses) will not run well with just 512 MBs. Leopard, i'm expecting will also recommend aproximately 1 Gig of ram. If you plan on playing WoW and doing Work (Exactly what i'm planning on doing on MB) i'd go for 1 Gig of ram at least no matter what generation you get. The 80 Gigs is also in my opinion required if your running bootcamp. 60 Gig HD is insufficient, because, after being formated and having both Mac OSX and Windows XP (Or Vista) on it, the 60 GB HD may end up as more of 52 Gig HD which isn't much space to devide between to Operating Systems. (After installing +your suites that gives you like 45 Gigs to split+Music or videos you may have... brings you down to like 37 GBs + the 10 Gigs you should keep free for your computer to run fine that gives you about 27 Gigs to devide as freem space). If you plan on only running OSX then 60 Gigs should be sufficient if your not doing video editing. But if you want to run Bootcamp I'd get at least 80 Gigs (I'd go with 120 but the jump in price from 80 to 120 is huge compared the jump from 60 to 80). This is why i think the Middle CD2 is the best Macbook because you get 80 GB HD with 1 Gig of ram, a faster processor and they throw in your Superdrive from a relatively small jump in price. When looking to make a purchase try to get the cheap upgrades if they will help (Eg. a 80 Gig HD over a 60 gig HD for a small price) and try to stay away from expensive premium upgrades (120 GiG HD for much more money- unless you really need it).
Hope that helps your decision,
Sorry if the grammar/spelling is horrible, I wrote this very quickly and didn't bother with grammar/proof reading.
Good luck,
I'm sure you will be happy with w/e macbook you choose but like i said i recommend a 80GB HD and 1GB ram at least on either generation of MB. I
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2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo versus Dual 2 GHz PowerPC Tower

HI, I currently have a G5 Dual 2 GHz PowerPC that I am ready to trade in for an Intel Mac.
Can anyone tell me how the 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Mini would compare? I have 3GB on the G5 and would get the Mini with 4 GB. I am a bit concerned about the slower hard drive, though...
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In the disk drive 'more information' on the mini configuration in the Apple online store, it says "All Mac mini models include standard Serial ATA hard drives and run at 5400 revolutions per minute (rpm)".

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Niel, is that it?
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Am upgrading from a 6 yo iMac running 10.6.8 to the latest and greatest. Old machine still running and fully backed-up via time capsule to an external hard drive. What's best (cleanest) way to transfer. Some of the older software (Microsoft Office X) will not be needed.
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Old airport (2003) versus new AEBS

Hi, what is the difference between the old airport versus the new? I have two macs & iphones that will be connected to it? Is it faster and better range? Both macs are intel. Any help is appreciated. I'm working from home and setting up my network and want to get the best connection I can get.

The circa 2003 Airport Extreme has 802.11b/g wireless, two 100 base-T Ethernet ports (dedicated LAN/WAN) and a USB port for printers only. A dialup phone modem and power over ethernet were optional features.
The newest AEBS (introduced today) is a much more capable unit. It offers simultaneous dual-band 2.4 and 5 GHz 802.11n and b/g modes so you don't have to compromise n speeds if you're also using b/g equipment. It has three Gigabit LAN ports and one WAN port. The USB port can also be used to connect a hard disk drive. It's also a lot less expensive than the original AEBS.
Before today you were limited to creating an 802.11g network if you wanted to use an iPhone with your home network. This eliminates that concern.
Better range... probably, I only say that since I have an Express "n" that's operating b/g compatible with my older AEBS. I have its transmitter power reduced to the minimum of 10% otherwise it dominates my home, and I want my older AEBS to serve as the primary access point.
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Macbook pro 2.2 MHZ versus new Macbook pro.

I just started doing some video editing and my computer seems very, very slow for the first time. Never had a problem doing big files in Photoshop. I was thinking of buying one of the new Macbook pro but then realized that the MHZ has only increased to 2.6 to 3MHZ. I can only afford the 2.6, would the upgrade be worth it? How much faster would these new Macbook be?

You wouldn't notice a real lot of difference from 2.2 to 2.6. I would troubleshoot your unit and find out why it is running slower.
How full is your hard drive?
Login as another User. Are things faster running in that account?
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Hi there, I'm in the market for a new (or old?) MacBook.
I need Firewire for music recording purposes, so I'm looking at either today's white 2.1ghz MacBook or yesterday's white 2.4ghz MacBook.
They are currently available at various places for around the same price.
The older one has 2.4ghz, but 667mhz bus
the newer one has 800mhz bus, but slower 2.1 ghz processor.
Which one is the more powerful machine?
Thanks for your help!

Thank you Dave - i had a hunch that might be the case, but since they have obviously taken the white 2.4's off this site it is difficult to tell on the resellers sites exactly what specs they are.
Basically I guess what I'm asking is this: what is new about the white macbook listed here:
http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook?mco=MTE3MjE
if anything? (there's a "new" listed above it, even if it is not the new aluminium model)
Because to me it just looks like the old 2.1ghz macbook with a price INCREASE - am I right.
Kappy - I think I've made it quite clear which laptop I'm talking about - it's a white MacBook, listed on the MacBook page of the Apple store (not the aluminium ones). While it is not technically a new design - it is listed there as "new".

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Old versus new

Hi all, I'm sure somebody has posted about this type of thing but...
I own a *early 2008 17" MacBook Pro 2.5GHz 250GB HD GeForce 8600M GT 512MB* and I love it. The only gripe I have with it is the size. I carry it around every day and its heavy after a while. Plus I don't really need the extra screen real estate as I nearly always plug it into an external monitor.
So I was wondering whether to sell it and buy a new *15" model but with the 2.4GHz 256MB* graphics. The cheapest one basically.
So I'd like to know how do they compare in terms of speed (as well as any other standout benefits) and graphics and is the 521MB graphics available as an add-on?
Also I jumped and bought my original MBP originally shortly after release in 2006 and I'm on my 3rd after various faults/replacements and this ones working perfectly so I'm a little scared that if I sell this and get a new one I'm going to run into the teething problems I experienced with the first MBP.
What would you guys do?
Thanks

Hi there, I'll try to address a few of your points.
The only gripe I have with it is the size.
The thing is that the new MBP is not noticeably different in size or weight. You won't notice any difference in size or weight between the two; the new MBP will be just as heavy as your current one.
how do they compare in terms of speed (as well as any other standout benefits) and graphics and is the 512MB graphics available as an add-on?
2.5Ghz -> 2.4Ghz
800Mhz FSB -> 1066Mhz FSB
6MB cache -> 3MB cache
512MB 8600 -> 256MB 9600
Personally, I think that in terms of processor speed they're going to be nearly exactly equal. The old one has a 100Mhz faster processor and double the cache, but the new one has a 1066Mhz FSB. In my mind these equal out roughly quite well.
In terms of graphics, the new model will be marginally faster at best. The 8600 and 9600 are essentially the same card, but the 9600 has some more recent shaders and is manufactured at 65nm which is smaller (and more efficient) than the 8600. Overall, perhaps you might see 10% faster graphics in the new model. So... perhaps 4FPS in games, ceteris paribus. In short, nothing spectacular.
this ones working perfectly
Ah yes, the intangible factor. I think that this is much more important than what I've previously typed. Your machine works perfectly now, and there is no noticeable performance increase (IMHO) going to the new machine. It's going to cost you something to upgrade as well.
Essentially you'd be paying more for only the unibody enclosure and nothing else. If that's worth it to you, go for it. If not, I would stick with your current machine for at least another generation or two. Intel's processor roadmap says that there are bigger and better things coming in the next processor refresh, whenever that occurs.
--Travis

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I just bought an apple (+nano) via the education offer.
I was curious... I bought the old 1st gen nano (4gb) for the same price apple sell the new one (8mb). Wouldn't be fare that they would change my nano with a new one without any harge. I have my nano just for ten days or so...
Isn't it unfair to stack with an old one for just some days difference?

It's not really unfair. You might not like it, but it's not really unfair
Companies need to update their products to stay competitive.
Apple was not offering the new iPod nanos in the education offer, so even if you bought that computer today, you would still get an old iPod nano.
I would give Apple a call and see what they say. You might get some money back from what you originally paid for the nano (so it's less after rebate), but you wouldn't be able to get a new iPod nano, simply because you bought it with the rebate offer and the rebate doesn't include new iPod nanos.
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Is there a document that list old versus new functions

Hi:
Is there a document somewhere that list old "_FIELD" functions and their new version. We migrated from 3.0 to 10g and are still using some of the old FIELD functions, for instance we use EDIT_FIELD to invoke an editor vs EDIT_TEXTITEM. I am looking for a document which I believe I have seen before that lists all the old functions that needed replacement during the upgrade.
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Ciao Thomas,
Check in this
[url http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/forms/pdf/forms_upgrade_reference.pdf] Forms 6i to Oracle9i Forms Upgrade Reference
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