Correct setting for exchange rates differences
Hey SAP B1 experts,
I have a problem with automatic generated exchange rates differences in B1.
Situation:
- I inserted all correct general ledgers in the g/l account determinations.
- The seeting in the item masterdata for "set g/l accounts by" is switched to warehouses.
- In the accounting setting in warehouses I inserted the p&l general ledger for exchange rates differences.
- I create a case which includes a exchnage rate difference.
- For the automatic generated entry the system use the general ledger which is inserted in the setting for "variance account" from the warehouse settings.
Is there any other general setting which is response for the using of the general ledgers for exchange rate differences?
Help!!
Regards
Thomas Bartels
Hey Shanker,
thank you for your realy quick answer.
In administration -> setup -> inventory -> warehouses I inserted the correct p&l account for the exchange rate differences in the seeting field "exchange rate differences", but the system don't use this setting. In my test case the system use the account from "variance account".
My questions are on the one hand why and on the other hand is there an other setting for using the correct account setting.
Regards
Thomas
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