Cost Comparing both production version

Dear gurus,
Cost estimation is runned for the BOM with version 001 and saved, againn iam running the cost estimation for the same material with BOM version 002 and saved.
In the above case i need to see the report of cost estimation comparison for both the BOM.
how to i see this one
Regards,
s.sakthivel

Dear Sakthivel subramanian,
Once after executing CK11N for the respective production version you will get the itemization for the
material and you export that into a spreedsheet or a local file as per your need.
In the same way do it for each production version and save the datas as a local file and compare it.
check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

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