Costco ICC profiles

Does anybody know how to install Costco ICC profiles in light room three

Sounds like you'd recommend 1) export directly from LR to JPEG using appropriate Costco ICC profile, but then 2) strip out the embedded profile - using some non-LR tool - because it would mess up Costco's printers. Am I understanding correctly?
Almost yeah. For most use I would actually recommend just using sRGB. The difference is not that large, but if you make larger prints for a critical audience, the best thing to do is to use the print panel. Set it up to output to jpeg and a custom size that corresponds to your final print size. Setup your layout (usually simply maximized) and set resolution to 300 ppi and output sharpening to standard matte or glossy depending on your output. Choose the appropriate costco profile as your output profile and select perceptual rendering. The latter is why I use the print panel for this. The export panel cannot do perceptual rendering and the result of perceptual is usually a lot better with the dry creek profiles as relative tends to make out-of-gamut areas appear posterized. Then I run the outputted jpegs through a little PS droplet that resaves without the profile attached. This is mostly just to save upload time. If I forget to do that, I get identical output, just takes longer to upload. Supposedly their poster printers that can do 20x30, do get messed up when you attach profiles, but I have not tested that myself. They do give absolutely superb output when using the dry creek profiles for those. It is hard to beat getting a 20x30 print on a fairly good Fuji paper using HP vivera inks for less than $10.
I knew Costco's printers can't read embedded profiles - but I thought that meant they always assumed your photos were in sRGB colorspace. And therefore your photos should only be exported using sRGB, otherwise they would attempt to convert & screw things up. Is this not the case? I know I've had pretty good results from Costco prints using sRGB exports.
The printers are tuned to approximate sRGΒ but they are not perfect. Costcos offers the dry creek profiles to get more accurate color and dry creek provides instructions here. They tell you to strip the profile:
Do not embed the profile in the saved file. Frontier, Noritsu, and Agfa printers ignore embedded profiles, so you are only using up disk space. Additionally, many versions of the Fuji Frontier PIC driver crash when given files with profiles embedded. In the File→Save As dialog box, uncheck the "Icc Profile:" box in the Color settings area.
In most cases, sRGB will work fine, but if tone and color are critical than certainly use the profiles. Even without soft proofing in Lightroom, you will get slightly better results. The main difference is the toning in the shadow areas in my opinion. They will be more consistent (i.e. less dark) with your display.

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"Could not complete the custom command because the ICC profile is invalid"

I got the above message when I attempted to soft-proof an image in Photoshop CC on Windows 7 64-bit.
I had downloaded the ICC profile from drycreekphoto.com, specifically:
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/icc/Profiles/IccFiles/Arizona/Costco-AZ-Tucson-NW-Lus.icc
and installed it by right-clicking on the downloaded file and selecting "Install profile"
Windows installed the profile in the following directory:
C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color
Then in Photoshop CC, I did
View -> Proof setup -> Custom
But when I selected the above profile from the dropdown list, I got error message
"Could not complete the custom command because the ICC profile is invalid"
Does this mean that the profile is really invalid, or am I doing something wrong?
FYI I am new to color management. This was my first attempt to soft proof an image.

I can't quite figure out how it got that way - it has part of an ICC profile structure, but quite a bit wrong. Even debugging tools can't read it as an ICC profile.
It's probably the one file - let drycreek/costco know so they can replace it.

ICC profile conflicts when printing from Aperture?

I have worked with Aperture now for two years, and I still have problems printing anything that is close enough to what I see on my calibrated screen. And believe me, I have done some reading on color management and ICC profiles. I suspect that Aperture pulls in ICC color profiles in a way that doesn't allow reproducing what I see on the screen. I wonder if these problems are related to the Registered ColorSync devices: opening ColorSync Utility under Devices reveals a bunch of default printers with a diversity of profiles, even if I have no access to these printers (in part these are network printers of my previous employment). I cannot figure out how I can delete these entries: I tried to find remaining printer profiles of these printers in my files, but could not find anything. How can I delete these entries, and can these entries cause color profile conflicts?
More specificially: I work with Aperture 2.1.3 and view my photos on a calibrated 23" Cinema display, run from a MBP with 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 10.5.6, and 2GB of memory. My monitor is calibrated with a Spyder for D65 and gamma of 2.2. I print with an Epson 3800 on Epson paper.
Here is my problem: despite calibrated monitor I don't get the prints to look even remotely close to what I get on my screen. Of course, I use the correct ICC profiles for my papers, and of course I have Aperture (and not the printer) run color management. It seems, however, that my prints resemble my monitor more if I use strange profiles such as "Wide Gamut RGB" or "ProPhoto RGB" as my monitor's profile instead of the calibrated D65, gamma 2.2.
In detail, here are my regular print settings in Aperture:
Print Mode: AccuPhoto HD
Color Mode: Off (No Color Management)
Output Resolution: SuperPhoto - 1440 dpi
Advanced Color Settings: Epson Driver Color Management is Off.
In the Aperture Print menu I use under Printer Selection:
ColorSync Profile: for example, Pro38 PGPP, when I use Epson Premium Photo Paper Glossy
Black Point Compensation checked.
Gamma: 1:00
Under Layout Options I use Print Resolution: Use Best DPI
With these settings the prints look significantly colder than what I see on the screen. Of course, a certain amount of the warmth of the screen colors comes from the calibration to D65 and gamma of 2.2, but shouldn't this give me the best correspondence between the calibrated screen and the print (using of course the color management of the application with ICC profiles, not the printer driver color management)?
I tried the same in CS4 and Lightroom, but no difference. Again, the problem is not that the prints are terrible: they are just not very close to what I see on the calibrated screen.
Where do I make a mistake? All suggestions are very welcome! This is driving me crazy. Many thanks for your help!
Best,
Kai

While the technical aspects of color management are complex, they are largely irrelevant for users.
The following steps have worked well for me:
Step One: Calibrate your monitor. I use the Datacolor Spyder. This produces a monitor profile. Use System Preferences to set your monitor to use this profile. Don't use this profile for anything else and give it a clear name so that you don't confuse it with a printer profile.
Step Two: Download and install the latest drivers for your printer. Buy a small box of photo paper (gloss, semi-gloss) from the manufacturer of your printer. Make sure that you have the correct ICC profiles for this paper and printer. You are trying to establish a baseline.
Step Three: Pick an image with a reasonable range of colors and exposures. (Don't start with a "difficult" image.) Turn soft proofing off and adjust the image as desired.
Step Four: Send this image to the printer. Load up the manufacturer's paper.
Step Five: In the "print" dialog, go to the "Printer Settings" sub menu and select the correct "Quality and Media" and the appropriate setting for "photo" quality. Make sure that all of the color options are neutral. Save.
Step Six: Back on the "Print" dialog select the correct ICC profile for your paper/printer. (Careful, DON'T use the calibrated monitor profile!) Adjust other settings as required. Save and name the preset.
Step Seven: Print and Pray. (And pray I haven't missed a step - sorry I'm not at my Mac. From your initial post, it sounds like you know how to do all of this.)
The results should be reasonably close. (That is why you should use the printer manufacturer's own paper and profiles as a starting point.)
If you are happy, great - get a beer. If not, try the following, making only one change at a time:
== Turn Soft Proofing on using the profile of the paper/printer. (Don't select the profile for your monitor, or any other.) Do the screen and print match now? If so, then you know to do your adjusting with soft proofing on. Remember, soft proofing is not exact - it is merely an attempt to make your screen look like the combination of paper and printer.
== If Soft Proofing makes your monitor look LESS like the print, then don't don't use Soft Proofing.
== If the results are close, you can make fine adjustments using the "Printer Settings" sub menu and saving presents. For example; I use a lot of CostCo paper in my Canon Pixma Pro9000. CostCo says that their paper mimics Canon's Photo Paper Pro, so I use the settings and profile for that paper, but I tweek the cyans and reds a bit in printer settings.
I have found that Red River profiles are a very good match for their papers.
Hope this helps. Good luck!

LR 4.3 Print Module + Dry Creek icc Profile = jpeg that Apple SW won't open

Greetings,
I have used Dry Creek Photo's (http://www.drycreekphoto.com/) Costo printer profiles successfully for some time with PS and they seem to work fine for soft proofing in LR4... but when I select one of those profiles in LR's Print module for export to jpeg[1] the jpegs produced cannot be opened with Preview, Color Sync, Safari, seemingly any Apple software in OS X (I've tried with both Snow Leopard and Lion). The jpegs do open in PS and browsers like Chrome and Firefox. If I open the files in PS and then save them with "Save As" the saved files open correctly in Preview, etc. Also, other icc profiles (like Adobe or sRGB) seem to work fine. I do not know if the printers at Costco can read the problematic jpegs or not.
Can anyone expain what's happening here? Am I doing something wrong? Is this a LR or Apple bug? Will the jpegs printed from LR's print module be usable on Costco's printers? Will I have to "launder" everything through PS (which would I would obvioiusly rather not do)?
Thanks!
[1] Files printed at Costco need to be in the color space of the printer for Soft Proofing to work since unless it's changed recently Costco's printers ignore embedded profiles. See, http://www.drycreekphoto.com/icc/using_printer_profiles.htm

This file (it's just a screenshot of this browser window "Printed" from LR4) is an example of one that will produce the problem described in my OP: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36072/Misc.%20Forums/test1.jpg
It was produced with Lightroom 4.3 on OS X 10.6.8. It is using this (http://www.drycreekphoto.com/icc/Profiles/IccFiles/Florida/Costco-FL-Lantana-Gls.icc) icc profile (picked at random to maintain my anonyminity). Trying to open that image with any Apple application on either OS X 10.6 or 10.7 fails for me. I can successfully open the file in PS, Chrome and Firefox in both 10.6 and 10.7 without issues. On OS X 10.7 I get the following dialog when trying to open it with Preview:
Doing "Get Info" on the file results yields this:

Canon ICC profiles and color printing issues

I use two Canon printers -- an all-purpose MP460 and a iP4000 for photos.
I use Canon's Photo Paper Plus Glossy II paper and Canon inks.
I print with color management off in the "Print Settings" and by selecting the ICC profile from the drop down in the Aperture print window.
Since updating to Snow Leopard, the MP460 prints images that are consistently dark using the "SP" ICC profiles.
The iP4000 has an issue in that it prints images from Aperture with magenta cast in areas of yellow to orange tones.
I have had prints made through online services that have come back accurate, so I am wondering . . . is this a Canon profile or driver issue? I haven't tried printing from Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as of yet.
Any suggestions?
It is very, very frustrating since prints from these printers were fine before Snow Leopard.

I have a Canon IP5200 and had numerous problems with Aperture printing from OS X10.6.2.
In November Canon came out with new print drivers. With SNL 10.6.2 update and new canon drivers my prints come out pretty well using canon's ICC profiles. I use the PR3 canon ICC with Costco (Kirkland) paper and am pleased with the results. Hope that helps

Color management screen/print & ICC Profiles

Hi,
I'm an amateur photographer and Lightroom 5 user. I shoot RAW with a Nikon D7000 and use Xrite Colorchecker passport to create camera profiles To calibrate my monitor I use Xrite i1 Display Pro (D65, 2.20 Gamma, 80 lumens brightness).
I have had great success displaying slideshows of my photos on a panasonic plasma 50". The problem I am having is printing pictures. I export to jpg using Adobe RGB and take my photos to the local Costco but the pictures come out darker and the colors are slightly off. When comparing prints to the Colorchecker passport the color difference is evident. Printing with Costco has been a hit and miss regardless of location.
I would like to set up my own printer to print photos. I have an Epson Stylus CX7450 and Epson Glossy Photo Paper (SO41141). Where can I get the ICC profiles for the printer and paper combination? I am looking for some advice and solutions to help improve my workflow and quality print output .
thank you,
john

Although ICC profiles for the Epson professional (Stylus Pro) printers are readily downloadable from the Epson web site, I don't think Epson creates ICC profiles for the all-in-ones, probably because they are considered to be more like general office equipment. You'd have to find some profiles online that others have created, or make your own with a printer profiling device.
As for Costco, you might get better prints by using profiles made for the printer at your local Costco. These may be available from Dry Creek Photo. Note that for the profiles to work properly you have to follow the directions on the site for communicating with the Costco photo print department so that they set their printer to account for the fact that you've exported to a specific profile.

Help Photoshop/Monitor Calibration and ICC Profiles.

I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, I am completely new here, if I am not, can you help show me where I can get answers to this?
If you can help me, then please. (:
So I'm helping my dad with a photography studio over the summer to make money for a car and I will be doing the editing and such.
I have CS4 on a laptop, that is connected to a NEC monitor with Multisync P221W with the Spectraview II calibration software.
We have done a few pictures before but it has always taken us a few prints from the costco photo center to get the colors and lighting right because
it always seems to be different than how I see it on the monitor. I have been told install the ICC profiles from http://www.drycreekphoto.com/icc/Profiles/California_profiles.htm#CA . I live in the victorville area, and there are 4 ICC profiles, 2 for each printer. How do I install all 4? And how do I switch from one to the other? Also how do I set up my NEC monitor for photo editing, the Spectraview program calibrates it and says that it's set up for Photo editing but are there standard values for the colors, gamma, etc? And also how do I set up Photoshop CS4 for editing, I have been told to go to color settings but I don't know what to do once I get there.
Thanks for your time.

Apparently photoshop is applying additional color correction on top of
what the monitor calibration software has already done. Is this
necessary? If this step is necessary, then why doesn't the monitor
calibration software do that, so that photoshop doesn't have to,
Photoshop doesn't apply any color correction to the images per se, it just operates in a selected color space, and takes into account your monitor profile.
The monitor calibration tells your video card - or the monitor itself for some high end monitors, how it should be set to meet chosen targets, and generates a profile for the monitor.
1. Caibrate your monitor and generate a profile
2. Tell your OS that that it your monitor profile
3. Set Photoshop to work in the space of your choice - sRGB, Adobe RGB, or ProPhoto 99% of the time
That takes you to a state where everything is in order more or less. If at this point your images look out of whack, it's almost certainly because they are, perhaps because they were previously corrected on a non-calibrated setup.
Photoshop and other color managed application should display them all more or less exactly the same, provided the files themselves have a color profile .

Paper icc profiles

Can any one help please?
I have downloaded a paper icc profile, I can see it in my downloads file in the dock. I am stuck on how I put it in to colorsync utility profile.

rathbone wrote:
In the print settings under media type I get the following choice.
Plain Paper
Premium Glossy Photo Paper
Premium Luster Photo Paper
Premium Semigloss Photo Paper
Proofing Paper semimatte
Qu (1) If say I were to use a matt finish paper, what from the above list should I use?
I assume you are not using an Epson paper.
Option 1) Look in the documentation that came with the paper. It should give you the settings to use for most major printer companies.
Option 2) Assuming that you know that the paper is a matte finish, look at the documentation of your printer and figure out which of their papers is matte - then use the settings for that one.
So I am thinking that it would be good would it not to simply ignore that field and instead chose the icc profile back at the colorsync profile window.
Bad idea. Assuming that you now have your profiles working, you use them for soft proofing (Onscreen Proofing in Aperture speak) and for setting the colors of your printed output. You still have to tell the printer what kind of paper you are using - plain, photo, glossy, matte, etc. If you don't, you may get the colors right, but you risk to have too much/little ink and the wrong drying time, etc. In other words, a rather pricey mess.
For example, I use Costco paper a lot. The box tells me that for most Canon printers, I should use the settings for "Photo Paper Pro." I used the same ICC profile until I discovered that there is actually a better one, the GL profile. But that is trial and terror.
I also use Red River papers. Again, the box tells me the printer settings and I use the Red River ICC profile and get very good results. (N.B. Using soft proofing can help a lot, especially with "green" recycled papers which are not very white.)
Hope this is helpful.

PS CS5 Image Display Differs From Used ICC Profile In Win 7

Hi,
on my Windows 7 Ultimate x64 machine, I just calibrated my Dell SP2309W monitor using an i1DisplayPro and basICColor 5, creating a ICC v2 profile (I am aware of the problems under Windows with ICC v4 profiles).
It created the ICC profile and applied it to be used by Windows. I double checked under COLOR MANAGEMENT that the new ICC profile is being used. Although I can see that the new ICC is being used (desktop appearance changes), there are a few issues I am experiencing:
(1.) Windows Photo Viewer
The thumbnails in Windpows Explorer look fine (they DO use the new ICC profile), when I double click a jpeg and open the image it DOES NOT use the new ICC profile. When I click the PLAY SLIDESHOW button (starting the slideshow) in the opened image in Windows Photo Viewer, the images DO use the new ICC profile.
(2.) Internet Browsers
All current internet browser (Firefox, IE, Safari and Chrome) DO use the new ICC profile and display the image correctly.
(3.) Photoshop CS 5
When I open the same image - that Windows Photo Viewer does not correctly displays (according to the new ICC profile) - in Photoshop CS5, I get the same image display that Windows Photo Viewer gives me (when not thumbnail or not in slideshow mode) - it appears to be the sRGB display.
My color settings in PS CS5 are: North America General Purpose 2 > sRGB IEC 61966-2.1.
When I go to View > Proof Setup > Monitor RGB I get the image display using the new ICC profile.
Why does the image look different in PS than my calibrated monitor should output ?
I was under the impression (please correct me if I am wrong), that the sole purpose for calibrating my monitor was to get a uniform display across (ICC aware) applications. Even when one applies different color spaces to a document in PS, I thought the output on my calibrated screen done by the graphic card should always be according to my calibration and the settings in the ICC profile being used.
What Am I doing wrong or what am I misunderstanding ?
Any help or input is appreciated !
Thanks.
- M

Hello,
A note on monitor calibration: calibrating your monitor will not guarentee that every application will display color correctly, it's more of a step along the pipeline, and for the preview part of a color workflow it's the last step. Here's how color translation follows for an ICC workflow when previewing to a monitor:
Image Color Numbers > Document Tag or Workspace Profile > Monitor Profile
For non-color managed applications, if the original document is or isn't tagged with a color profile it will be translated directly to the monitor profile anyway. This is the equivalent in Photoshop of selecting "Monitor" in soft proofing. Selecting monitor in softproofing will bypass the tagged or workspace profile to translate colors directly through the monitor profile.
For most automatic color managed applications (like Firefox), the image will be translated through the tagged profile and then sent through the monitor profile. If the image is untagged or the profile is unrecognized, the colors get sent directly to the monitor profile.
For Photoshop, a tagged document will have its profile respected and then sent to the monitor. An untagged document will be assigned the workspace profile, which acts like a temporary document profile, and then gets sent to the monitor. This is often why users will notice Photoshop behaves differently from other applications. It's usually a case of the workspace coming into play. By default the workspace profile is set to sRGB. You can change this in Edit > Color Settings.
The purpose of the workspace is originally for printing workflows, as a way of keeping consistant color translations when dealing with both tagged and untagged documents. For web output workflows it can be useful for viewing everything through sRGB, which is typical of the average monitor output (not so with newer wide-gamut monitors, another source of confusion...) combined with the fact that originally most web browsers were not color managed. Hence viewing everything through sRGB is pretty close to what most monitors see and what untagged/unmanaged docs will look like.
Monitor calibration is useful only because it brings your monitor output to a "known state". In traditional workflows the monitor was always a middle-man, a preview device which was useful for getting an idea of what the printed output would look like before you print it. Since print colorspaces are often smaller than display spaces, it's feasible and useful to narrow down the monitor/display space and calibrate it to a known state, so that even if it doesn't totally match the print, you'll get used to its differences/limitations and they'll be consistent so long as the calibration is maintained.
For web output, your final output is often another user's computer monitor, which can have any form of behavior (most standard monitors are pretty close to sRGB, or use sRGB as an operating system workspace (default monitor profile). Wide gamuts behave differently, but I'm not sure if there's a particular ICC space that they closely match, or if different wide-gamuts are even that close to each other in their display color spaces.
Hope this helps!

CUSTOM ICC PROFILES DO NOT SHOW UP IN PSCS 6 MAC OS 10.8.4 BUT ARE OK IN CS5

The only icc profiles that show up in CS 6 Mac OS 10.8.4 are the ones that are installed from the printer driver ( Epson 9900 ) Any other single or custom profiles do not show up when placed Library/Colorsync/Profiles
All profiles show up in CS 5, There has been a lot of discussion of this on many forums with no solution. I have also tried installing the profiles in the contents folder of the Epson printer in the main library folder with no luck. Please advise

Mac OS 10.8.4 is still in beta. You need to be reporting this to Apple.
What happens if you move these profiles to the Adobe/Profiles folder, or the users/Library/Colorsync/Profiles folder?
There has been a lot of discussion of this on many forums with no solution.
What forums? A google search turns up nothing but this thread.
I have not seen this problem with the released versions of 10.8.

Can't see the installed icc profiles for my paper in print module

I have downloaded and installed the icc profiles for my favourite Canson and Crane Museo papers on my new Macbook Pro but they don't show up in the options box in the LR 4 print module. Is there another step I have missed? Thanks in advance.

Where did you install the profiles? They should go into
Library/Colorsync/Profiles in your home folder or at the root level of your
hard disk. If you put it in that folder in your home folder, they show up
in user, if you put them in the root Library folder, they show up in
"Computer" in Colorsync utility

Links Panel doesn't display actual ICC Profile

Hello. My Link Panel displays "ICC Profile: Document CMYK" on any cmyk image I place, no matter what profile the image bears, and no matter if in Colour Settings the Colour Management Policies is set to Preserve Embedded Profiles or Off. Even if within InDesign I convert it to something completely different, I still get the same information. I'm pretty sure that's not what's supposed to happen, but I'm completely blank on this. Could anyone help me out, please? Thanks a lot.

Which file format do you use for the placed image? EPS?

Possible solution for problems printing with ICC profiles - esp. R2400

(N.B. This is long because I've decided to go in to details about the background of the problem etc.. Also note that whilst my experience is with the Epson R2400, anyone with problems printing using ICC profiles in Aperture may find this post helpful, as will be explained further down the post.)
Ok, here's the situation. I've been an Aperture user for over a year, and an R2400 owner for half a year. In that time I have done a huge amount of experimenting, but I've never managed to get Aperture to work perfectly with Epson's 'premium' R2400 ICC profiles - the ones you can download from their site which are better than the ones provided 'in the box'. This hasn't been too big a deal because, in fact, the R2400 does a rather good job just set to 'System Managed' in Aperture and 'Epson Vivid' with a gamma of 1.8 in the printer driver. Nevertheless, it really annoyed me that something that should work wasn't, which is why I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out what's going on. Having said that, I have come across a method which will give you pretty good prints out of your Epson R2400 using the premium profiles in Aperture - it's not perfect, but it's the best you're going to get if you want to use those profiles in Aperture. I understand the words 'it's not perfect' aren't what photography experts would probably want to hear, however, I have seen a few anguished posts from R2400 owners in here before, so I think some people may find it useful.
The whole reason why Aperture is hopeless at using the R2400's premium profiles is because - unusually - their default rendering intent is set to 'relative colorimetric' rather than 'perceptual'. You might say 'but that's good - it means you get more accurate colours!', and if you do, you're right... however, there's a snag. To get an image to reproduce well using Epson's premium profiles and relative colorimetric rendering, you really need to use black point compensation. This is where the trouble lies: Aperture's black point compensation is diabolical to the point of being unusable when used with relative colorimetric rendering - I feel I need to be awarded compensation every time I've ever tempted to use the setting. So because BPC in Aperture is unusable, that effectively makes the premium profiles unusable too, because Aperture always uses the default rendering intent specified in the profile.
The solution? Use perceptual rendering instead. Ok, so you can't change the rendering intent in Aperture, which makes that sound a tad difficult. However, as I said in the above paragraph, Aperture always obeys the default rendering intent specified in the profile... so you can see where we're going with this: we need to change the ICC profiles' default rendering intent from 'relative colorimetric' to 'perceptual'. I did some digging around and found one or two expensive pieces of software that could do that... but then I found that, lo and behold, the Mac OS has a command-line utility which can do the job for us, for precisely £0.00. It's called SIPS or 'Scriptable Image Processing System', and you can find out some information about it here: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn2035.html#TNTAG58 For those who don't like reading technical jargon however, here's what you need to do to convert a profile's rendering intent. First go to terminal, then type in the following command:
sips -s renderingIntent perceptual
Do not press 'enter' yet. Instead, add a space after 'perceptual', find the ICC profile you want to modify, and click and drag it into the terminal window. You should then find that your command looks something like this:
sips -s renderingIntent perceptual /Users/yourname/folder/RandomProfile.ICC
At which point you can then press 'enter', and the command will execute, giving you an ICC profile which will now make Aperture use perceptual rendering.
There is just one further thing to be aware of after doing this: for some crazy reason, you then need to turn on BPC in Aperture for the prints to come out as good as possible. Black point compensation shouldn't make any difference when using perceptual rendering as the idea of perceptual is that it takes account of things like that anyway, however, in Aperture BPC does make a difference, so remember to turn it on to get a half decent print. In general, I find that prints made using this setup come out pretty well; they almost perfectly match prints made using the profiles with a perceptual intent in Photoshop Elements, except for the fact that Aperture blocks up the shadows a bit more than Photoshop. However, if you can live with that, you might find this is quite a workable solution.
Now, I said near the beginning of this post that all the above can apply to other printers too. Most printer profiles have 'perceptual' set as their default rendering intent, in which case everything I've just said won't be of much help. However, If you are reading this because you're having problems with ICC profiles in Aperture, but you don't use an Epson R2400, find your problematic ICC profile, double-click on it, and take a look at the window that opens: specifically, at the 'Rendering Intent' the window mentions. If it doesn't say 'Perceptual' then it may well be worth trying the steps I've outlined in this post to set it to perceptual, to see if doing so produces an improvement when using the profile in Aperture.
Finally, just one note of caution: if you decide to try out the steps I've detailed above on a paid-for custom-made profile, please back your profile up before messing with it. I haven't experienced any problems when using SIPS to change a profile's rendering intent, but I obviously can't guarantee that it won't do something weird and corrupt your expensive custom-made profile.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask, although (contrary to any impression I may give) I am not a colour-management expert; I'm just someone who doesn't give up when they have a problem that should be solvable.
Thomas
Mac Pro 2.0GHz with 30" ACD; 15" MacBook Pro 2.0GHz Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Thomas
Wow - thanks for such a comprehensive post.
I have Aperture and a 2400 so this information is exceptionally useful to me.
Again - thanks for caring and sharing
Brian

Adobe Acrobat Pro 9.1.0 distiller ICC profile error asks for reinstall

I have Windows XP professional, SP3.
My Systems Administrator recently upgraded my Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 to 9.1.0 and since then I keep getting an error that says: Distiller cannot find its standard ICC profiles. Please reinstall Adobe Acrobat to correct this problem.
This error happens when:
1. I print to Adobe from a web page (IE 7.0.5730.11 or Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.20)
2. I try to print to any printer from certain websites, such as the usps.com, where I print all our postage labels from.
3. Occasionally when I start up the PC.
Sometimes I get the error but it still pdfs the page. Usually, though, it hangs and then Acrobat and the web browser close.
I seem to be able to pdf MS Office 2007 items (Word, Excel) and my Filemaker Pro Advanced 10 records. I guess it's when I'm "printing" to Adobe as opposed to "saving as pdf" that I have this problem.
Acrobat 8 worked fine. My Sys Admin has reinstalled the upgrade twice (after trying a repair which didn't work) to no avail. He can't find any documentation about this error at Adobe, so he's going to uninstall it and switch me back to Adobe 8.
I do all of the pdf'ing of our deliverable documents at my company and I would like to have the latest edition of Acrobat. If anyone knows of anything I can do, please let me know.
Thanks!
Stephie

Adobe Tech support was most helpful on this. First download the updated
Distiller ICC profile files at:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=4075&fileID= 3790
Unzip the file and copy only the *.icc files (without regard to the subfolders that they are in - in other words, take the files out of each of the subfolders) to the followng folder in Windows 7:
c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\color
These new files will probably overwrite some old ones.
This solved the problem for me.
This is actually the best solution though I found that instead of copying all the .icc files to the windows\sys... folder, all you need to do is copy the 3 Video files from the RGB folder (VideoHD.icc, VideoNTSC.icc, and VideoPAL.icc). Once you add these three files to c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\color you will be good to go.
It seems that this was an error on the part of Adobe in that there is no reason to include Video files for printing. Nevertheless, the distiller will look for these and return the ICC profile error message if those files are not present.

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Striebig wrote:
I'm thinking that lightroom and the printer are not communicating the icc profile info?
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