Credit check - oldest open items VS open items

Hi all,
Can anyone let me know the difference between oldest open item and Open items (No of days open)??
As per my knowledge oldest open item means system will check if any open item is more than the given days. If it found one then it will through a message as per the settings while creating a document or else it will not give any message.
(And Max.open.item % under Open items is also working fine.) But NoDays openI is also working same as above. what is the difference between these two????
Can anyone explain me clearly on this.
Ratna

Hi,
Could you please share the answer?
Tawsif Chogle

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Check if that sales item (check in the sales order) has any payment terms. If that particular open item has a payment term of say 30 days, then after 30 days only it will be counted for credit check as an open item. This is my understanding but never tested it on the system. But different members have different opinions on this issue of 'Role of Payment Terms in Credit Management'. Please check it in the system and post the outcome.
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Currently all the sales orders that are created for a particular customer is getting blocked as u201COldest open itemu201D and we are releasing the orders by VKM3. Will you please tell me how I can find in which order/invoice this open item is lying?
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Dear Monika,
You can check the open items in FD10N transaction which will give the amount which are due from the customer.
Also, you can use VA05 and VF05 to see the list of Open oders and Open invoices for the customers respectively.
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Report this postReply with quote Credit check for unconfirmed item

Hello,
I have configured automatic credit control for sales orders.
When a confirmed order quantity is entered, I get a warning message plus the credit block, just as I need. If I have no confirmed quantity of the items, I get no message, just a saved order.
Our item confirmation is done only on what is in stock, not on RLT, so it is common that an item has 0 confirmation. I need a credit block if the value would otherwise exceed the open credit limit? How can I do this? I've tried both the static and dynamic checks, but they only work with confirmed quantities.
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pricing:
   step Des                      From     print     subtotal
   120   Total                                   X        1
   130   Credit value           120         X        A
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Dear All,
Hope you all are doing well !!!
Infact i am currently implementing OPM and SCM modules for a CSD (carbonated soft drinks) industry. They have a specific requirement on Credit Management. Please look at the Requirement Below.
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Client Charges Distributors for both Liquids (Finished Product) + [Return Glass Bottles and Shells) for the First Time.
Subsequently while returning RGB(Return Glass Bottles)'s and Shell's are being given Credit memos.
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Particular Sales Order. It works on total Sales Order. as this is not a standard Process in Oracle how we can achieve this without customization.
Please suggest me through any workaround we can achieve this and its a show stopper for us and business critical for my client.Please help me on this regard.
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I'd suggest writing your own might be easier. Oracle buckets the exposure as per the list below whereas you are probably only interested in seeing a total order exposure (by line item for bottles/shells) and total AR exposure summary.
Also the standard report will look at the unit sell * the ordered quantity in calculating transaction amounts on open orders which is your problem. If I've understood your requirement correctly, you only want to consider the shells and bottles in the credit check because you enforce prepayment for liquids so presumably your AR o/s balances are only for money owing on shells and bottles.
In that case, your only real issue is at the order entry stage (again because Oracle will be considering the total transaction value if you're using the standard automated credit check) which is why I suggested the manual workaround there.
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Dear All,
Hope you all are doing well !!!
Infact i am currently implementing OPM and SCM modules for a CSD (carbonated soft drinks) industry. They have a specific requirement on Credit Management. Please look at the Requirement Below.
Credit Management Per Line on SO
Client Charges Distributors for both Liquids (Finished Product) + [Return Glass Bottles and Shells) for the First Time.
Subsequently while returning RGB(Return Glass Bottles)'s and Shell's are being given Credit memos.
CBL gives credit only on Bottles & shells but not on Liquids.
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Oracle E-Business Suite Credit Management does not work per line item for a
Particular Sales Order. It works on total Sales Order. as this is not a standard Process in Oracle how we can achieve this without customization.
Please suggest me through any workaround we can achieve this and its a show stopper for us and business critical for my client.Please help me on this regard.
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While checking oldest open item for credit management, open line items with credit nature should not be considered. Only debit entry should be considered and based on date given for blocking the oldest due item should be followed.
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I need to change open sales order value which is already there in S066 table.
Previously we had used open order value for credit check. Open order values are already updated in the S066 table.
Now we dont want to consider open order value for credit check (which is already included in the credit exposure field in FD32).
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Hi Babs,
If you doesn't want to reflect the open order value in the structure for this order value ,If the order is not processed kindly delete the line items and the order. Then save the document. Then try to see the structure S066.. This will be modified.
If you want to modify the value then follow the below process.
Otherwise delete the line item in the order and change the pricing date and the document date. Re enter the line item again so that it will take it up the new changes.
I hope it will help.
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Could anyone tell the difference Between Static and Dynamic Credit Check?
According to website: http://www.sap-basis-abap.com/sd/difference-between-static-and-dynamic-credit-check.htm ... this is the answer:
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Simple Credit Check : Tr.Code - FD32
It Considers the Doc.Value + Open Items.
Doc.Value : Sales Order Has been saved but not delivered
Open Item : Sales Order has been saved , Delivered, Billed & Transfered to FI, but not received the payment from the customer.
Static Credit Check it checks all these doc value & check with the credit limit
1) Open Doc.Value / Sales Order Value : Which is save but not delievered
2) Open Delivery Doc.Value : Which is delivered but not billed
3) Open Billing Doc.Value : Which is billed but not posted to FI
4) Open Item : Which is transfered to FI but not received from the customer.
Dynamic Credit Check         1) Open Doc
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Here the System will not consider the above 1, 2, 3 & 4 values for the lost 3 months.
====================
Question 1: Could you further explain the above information, if there is any?
Question 2:: What is the Tcode to customize settings of:
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b) Static Credit Check
c) Dynamic Credit Check

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Example One at report Level.
Create a variable for a Infoobject say ,Material .
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2)If u give the variable as input ,and when u run the query ,u can can choose the material,may 10 may be 1 or may 20 .It is dynamic.Changeable by user at run time
Example Two at DTP and Start Routine Level,say Document Type.
1)If u give filters in Start routine it is Static as u cannot change it in Production,not changeable by user.
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