CS3 bridge: Tiff thumbnails overexposed...Why?

I'm working on a PC and I just upgraded to CS3 from CS2. In Bridge, when I save my files from RAW to Tiff, the Tiff thumbnails are all overexposed. All the Raw thumbnails are properly exposed according to the settings in Camera Raw. When I first save the tiff file, the thumbnail has the correct exposure settings, but then instantly changes to an overexposed setting. This happens to all the Tiff thumbnails and also to the large preview image, but not to the RAW thumbnails or preview images. When I open the Tiff file, the settings are correct.
I have a feeling it has something to do with the thumbnail preview settings in "preferences". Can someone help me please? I'm sure it's something simple.
Thanks...

That option that you changed is not one for viewing JPEG and TIFF images in ACR, but for editing them in ACR. I have it checked on my system, and I have all my thumbnails. Problem is that Bridge seems to behave differently on different computers. It seems to me that there are more problems with the PC than the Mac. I have an older PC that is slow by today's standards so I just kind of limp along with Bridge. Yes, you can use other browsers. I have used Faststone, but although it is faster, all of the features are not there. I surely hope Adobe comes up with a better solution. There certainly won't be one in CS3, but maybe it will be one of the motivating factors to get people to move to CS4. It's doubtful (in my opinion) that we will see an improvement in this version.

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