CSS question on sidebar heights

Just going back to a site I started a while ago, and am going
to have pages with a centre section and two sidebars - but don't
think I'm sure on the best way to ensure the sidebars and the main
content are the same height.
I've been trying with putting a height value in to the
sidebar styles, but have a feeling this isn't the best way to do
it.
At the moment it looks OK in firefox (mac), but not safari,
and I doubt IE - but hopefully people can get the idea of what it
is I'm trying to do.
The page is here :
link
here
And the CSS is here :
CSS
link
Thanks as always.

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> Just going back to a site I started a while ago, and am
going to have
> pages
> with a centre section and two sidebars - but don't think
I'm sure on the
> best
> way to ensure the sidebars and the main content are the
same height.
>
> I've been trying with putting a height value in to the
sidebar styles, but
> have a feeling this isn't the best way to do it.
>
> At the moment it looks OK in firefox (mac), but not
safari, and I doubt
> IE -
> but hopefully people can get the idea of what it is I'm
trying to do.
>
> The page is here :
>
>
http://www.handprintdvd.co.uk/webdesign/carcarenew/removers.shtml
>
> And the CSS is here :
>
>
http://www.handprintdvd.co.uk/webdesign/carcarenew/main.css
>
> Thanks as always.
>

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