Customer Service on CS5 Master Suites

I spent 6hrs on the phone with Tech Support & Customer Service.
I purchased the CS5 Creative Suite Master Collection upgrade. I purchased it from a Adobe Authorized large company that carries PC and Mac sofware. The issue I have a 32 bit IMAC and the Adobe Premier and After Effects would not install on the system. Everything else updated fine to the CS5. Tech support had me do everything from setting up a new user reinstalling running the disk utility and on numerous phone calls to his senior tech rep.
Finally he said download the CS5 trial on these two programs and then just type in my serial number and the program will install fine. That didn't work and back to tech support more time wasted. The tech support said to call Customer Service and they will send the CS4 Adobe Premier and After Effects because it should of been shipped inside the box. Then Customer Service said it should of been shipped in the box another Customer Service rep no its not included, Tech Support yes it is included and said talk with Customer Service and they will give you a link to download the software. The last Customer Service Rep said it should of been shipped but since I did not purchase the software directly from the Abobe store website that they could not help me and they can not locate my serial number and can not help me. The Customer Service Rep also quoted that resellers like MACMA** and the other companies are not reliable sellers of abobe products.
I guess since you buy a product not from the adobe store and save yourself a few dollars that Adobe can't help.
Maybe Adobe should send out info so Tech Support, Customer Service all has the same info. You spend around 1,300 and this is the Customer Service Adobe gives you. Great work Adobe you really know how to treat customers!
Here is the email I got back from Adobe this morning
Thank you for contacting Adobe Customer Service
We have received your concern for the Serial numbers of After Effects
and Premiere Pro for the 32 bit installation as well as the discs that
is not included in your package. We understand that you purchased this
from a reselelr thus it is best to ask for the replacements from them
because the discs as well as the serial numbers should come with your
package and should not be missing.
Kindly contact the reseller for the replacement of your package. Hope we
are able to address your concern.
Thank you,
Karl
Adobe Customer Service

Yes I understand the Adobe Premier and After effects in CS5 run on 64 bit only - but the 4 adobe Techs and 3 out of the 6 customer service reps said that a CD for CS4 for Adobe Premier and After effects comes with the CS5 suite. They said that their are so many adobe customers with 32 bit so that is why it should of been included in the CS5 master suite. Some of them are telling me that that their should of been a separate DVD

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