Data Guard logical standby Versus Streams

I'm referring to both Oracle 10g/9i
If a Data Guard logical database uses similar technology to Streams (Log Mining and SQL apply), why can't you stand up a standby database on a different platform, or at least I have found nothing on the subject.
But in 11g Oracle Data Guard (physical standby database) is a solution for same endianness platform migration.
I will appreciate any insight on the subject.

Yes...thats true...both uses same technology...
REDO LOGMINER
SQL------------------------>BLOCK LEVEL CHANGES---------------------------------->SQL
But there are serious implemetation diff..
1) Oracle Data Guard is designed for protecting from data failure and disasters.
Streams is designed for information sharing and distribution but can also provide a very efficient high availability solution.
2) Streams is configured from the bottom up — individual tables, schemas, capture processes, apply processes, queues.
Logical Standby is configured from the top down — start with entire database, then specify only what you don’t want.
As logical standby is top down and changes are capture at remote location (logical standby db) and for that archive log need to be shipped using FAL client/server to remote and to ship the archivelog in Data Guard configuration, all members should be running on same platform.
As said before, Streams is configured from the bottom up, it start with tables--> Schemas--->Database and we can capture changes at local/remote location. If we capture changes locally, target streams db can be on diff platform. But for downstream capture must need same platform as logical standby database needed so that archivelogs can transport from source to downstream db.

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    PRIMARYSV =
    +(DESCRIPTION =+
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    +(SERVER = DEDICATED)+
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    +(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = db2.ad.xxxxx.com)(PORT = 1529))+
    +(CONNECT_DATA =+
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    +(SERVICE_NAME = dbacoe)+
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    +)+
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    Edited by: 961394 on Dec 10, 2012 1:52 AM
    Edited by: 961394 on 2012-12-10 上午4:58

    结贴了,感谢maclean一群的Jesse Lui帮我解决问题

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    dgcreate.recoverStby: ALTER DATABASE OPEN READ ONLY
    SQL Error: ORA-16004: backup database requires recovery
    ORA-01152: file 1 was not restored from a sufficiently old backup
    ORA-01110: data file 1: '/u01/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/oradata/oratstdg/system01.dbf' (DBD ERROR: OCIStmtExecute)
    Can anyone pass along any ideas as to where the issue might be? I would really appreciate it - I need this up and going ASAP. Thanks!
    Matt Gordon

    Ugonic,
    I actually did create a new Physical Standby Database. I did not have an existing database configured as a standby database. In fact, the standby server that I used only had the Oracle binaries installed on it - there was no database on that system.
    Additionally, I did not have a saved configuration to use, so I generated completely new files and a new configuration.
    I left the screen alone for over an hour before checking the status and seeing these errors in the log - I am wondering if anybody else has encountered this same issue.
    On a side note, I've stumbled my way further into this process and now have a functional DG configuration. However, I can only switchover from SQL*Plus - the GUI way fails. When I click on Verify in the GUI I get the following log:
    Initializing.
    Connected to instance fcoracle1.cdps.cdp:oratest1
    Starting alert log monitor...
    Updating Data Guard link on database homepage...
    WARNING: Database oratest2.cdps.cdp is not discovered.
    Data Protection Settings:
    Protection mode : Maximum Performance
    Log Transport Mode settings:
    oratest1.cdps.cdp: ASYNC
    oratest2.cdps.cdp: ASYNC
    Checking standby redo logs.....OK
    Checking Data Guard status
    oratest1.cdps.cdp : Normal
    oratest2.cdps.cdp : Normal
    Checking Inconsistent Properties
    Checking agent status
    oratest1.cdps.cdp ... WARNING: Undefined subroutine &main::executeSQLPlusSYSDBA called at - line 5.
    WARNING: Switchover or failover may not succeed as a result.
    oratest2.cdps.cdp ... WARNING: Undefined subroutine &main::executeSQLPlusSYSDBA called at - line 5.
    WARNING: Switchover or failover may not succeed as a result.
    Switching log file 235.Done
    Checking applied log on oratest2.cdps.cdp....OK
    Processing completed.
    Have you experienced this problem and/or do you have any suggestions to resolve it?
    Matt

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