Datafile containing rollback segment crashed

Hi,
In one of our production box (oracle 8.1.7.4 and HP UX), datafile containing rollback segment crashed. To open the database, i commented rollback segment line in init file and started the db and brought the crashed datafile to offline for dropping as
alter database datafile '/db10/rollback/rbs01.dbf' offline drop;
and then tried to drop the tablespace containing that datafile but it threw an error saying an active rollback segment R0 is still there in the tablespace. I donot know how to drop this and create new rollback segments. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Guna

Hi,
Serious case. In case of a failure the instance recovery is automatic but the rollback segments are needed. Having the database open does not mean everything is OK. Just read that :
Crash or instance recovery consists of the following steps:
+# Rolling forward to recover data that has not been recorded in the datafiles, yet has been recorded in the online redo log, including the contents of rollback segments. This is called cache recovery.+
+# Opening the database. Instead of waiting for all transactions to be rolled back before making the database available, Oracle allows the database to be opened as soon as cache recovery is complete. Any data that is not locked by unrecovered transactions is immediately available.+
+# Marking all transactions system-wide that were active at the time of failure as DEAD and marking the rollback segments containing these transactions as PARTLY AVAILABLE.+
+# Rolling back dead transactions as part of SMON recovery. This is called transaction recovery.+
+# Resolving any pending distributed transactions undergoing a two-phase commit at the time of the instance failure.+
+# As new transactions encounter rows locked by dead transactions, they can automatically roll back the dead transaction to release the locks. If you are using Fast-Start Recovery, just the data block is immediately rolled back, as opposed to the entire transaction.+
What did you do exactly after the crash ? Can you post commands/output + last 50-100 lines of your alert.log ?
Best regards
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