Daylight Savings Time issue with Palm Treo 755p/Missing Sync 6.0.6

I'm not sure where the fault is, but here's what a user sees here:
User has a Palm Treo 755p with the 1.08 software installed.
Since DST on March 14th, when he syncs the iCal information to the phone using Missing Sync 6.0.6, the information on the phone is pushed ahead one hour.
But the odd thing about it is how it shows on the phone.
User created a repeating event from March 12-20 from 9-10 a.m. called "test 9" for an example of this.
On March 12 and 13, this shows as "test 9" -- at 9:00 on the Treo
From the 14th on, it shows as: "test 9 (9 am EST)" -- but it is entered at *10:00* a.m.
What I don't know is if this is a Missing Sync issue or a Palm OS issue.
User's computer is running 10.6.2 -- and both computer and Palm are in the Eastern time zone.
I'm open for suggestions here -- is this a *Palm* issue? Or something else?
Thanks!

We "fixed" this by noticing that -- for whatever reason -- Detroit (we're in Ann Arbor, actually) shows as "Eastern Standard Time" where it seems that every other major city in the time zone (Columbus, Indianapolis, New York, Miami, Philadelphia, etc...) shows as "Eastern Time".
So we set up iCal on this computer to use New York ("Eastern Time") and all the events added to iCal after that synced properly.
I tried to add "Detroit" to the Palm, but had no luck in syncing with that. I think the "Eastern Time" thing is key. I have a Bug Report into Apple about the fact that the time zone seems wrong for us.
That said, while I could change pre-existing events from "Eastern Standard Time" to "Eastern Time" in iCal, those events did *NOT* sync to the Palm correctly.
The user had to delete/readd the events in the right "time zone" to get them to sync correctly.
I'd be curious to know if this solution (?) works for you as well.

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That settles that! Thank you! My theory was wrong! I appreciate the help.
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You may think it settles that but, sorry to burst your bubble, that doesn't really settle much of anything.
One thing that was settled is the answer to this question
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But are they talking about what you can EXTRACT and DISPLAY from the field or what is actually STORED internally?
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which is, as Mark stated, they are talking about what is stored internally.
The other thing that was settled is that you will pull the same, or mostly the same, data twice during that one hour. I say 'mostly the same' because of the major flaw your extraction method has to begin with.
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If you store SYSDATE in a DATE column in row “X” at 1:30 AM before the time change, and you store sysdate in row “Y” exactly one hour later, will Oracle say that X’s timestamp is 60 minutes less than Y’s timestamp?
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No - they will have the same time since 'one hour later' would have been 2:30 AM but the clock was turned back an hour so is again 1:30 AM. So the second time your job runs for 5 minutes at 1:30 AM it will pull both the original 1:30 AM data AND the data inserted an hour later.
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do people avoid using DATE and TIMESTAMP datatypes because they are too simple?
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That method isn't reliable - that is why people avoid using a date/timestamp value for pulling data. And the more often you pull data the worse the problems will be.
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