Delta Load to Infocube

Hi,
I am facing an issue with delta load to infocube.
Let me give you the scenaario - I have a standard Infocube and a DSO.
Data gets loaded to the infocube daily using Delta with filter on sy-datum.
There a new Key figure which is added as part of the DSO and Infocube recently.
Our requirement is - we have to populate history for that specific key figure in the DSO and subsequently to the Cube whithout any data duplication for already existing Key figures.
Hence, we have created a self loop on the DSO updating only the specific key figure.
Before loading the data into the DSO, while setting the already existing DTP which takes sy-datum is filter to " Initial Update Set".
Its giving an error which says "Overlapping Selection criteria for DTP".
Is it something like we cannot change the setting of an already existing DTP?
If i do a full data will get duplicated for the past dates, hence delta is the only solution.
But how to go about delta then?

Jaya,
If i understand corrctly..... Data getting loaded from DSO to CUBE through delta with some selection. New keyfigure added to DSO & CUBE ... right...??
To populate new KF, self loop created(DSO --> DSO) with required mappings(keyfields and new KF).
Just do full load from DSO --> DSO and push delta to cube. No need to keep any filters while loading from DSO to DSO. Populate new KF for entire data, and while pushing to cube filter is already available at DTP(use exising delta mechanism only from DSO to CUBE). No need of any full load from DSO to CUBE.
Hope it Helps
Srini

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Hi......
What i want to know is when the network is reconnected ,Does the transfer start from the 6th data package?
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Or you can check the datasource also..........
If it is a generic datasource go to RSO2..........and check...........If it is a standard datasource check it in RSA5...........
How to find out how many records have been transfered from r3 to bw while the transfer has ended in the middle ? I mean how to check how many records have been successfully transfered from r3 to cube/ods .Please tell me for ods as well as cube
Your load cannot be ebded in the middle.........it can failed.............if it fails then you have to delete the request from the target..........and then repeat the load.......
Is the continuation of transfer process is same for both ODS & INFOCUBE, if it ends in the middle
Yes.........
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Yes.......
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I think Full repair concept is now clear............
Suppose your delta load fails...........After that you delete the request after making the QM status red............Then system will ask for a repeat delta when you will try to repeat the load...........which means it will pick the same delta records of the failed load..........
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This you can do via infopackage or infopackage group...........schedule it at the specific time.....
Check these links :
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/20/ad673844a7114be10000009b38f842/frameset.htm
Re: Schedule Infopackage for last day of a fiscal period
Hope this helps you.........
Regards,
Debjani...........

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does the APD support delta load of data in case the data target is
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Hello Marco,
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