Derivation rule at asset retirement
Hii experts,
we have requirement of assets procurement through grants they receive. Funds of fund center got consumed at the asset acquisition but when i m triyng to retire/scrap assets... its giving an error for FI313 I.e
No funds center entered/derived in item 00001 (1000/2000000122/)
I came to know that we need to prepare some derivation rule of the retirement of assets to resolve the issue.. Please guide me as i am very new to grant management...
Regards,
Abhay
Dear Abhay,
Since you have created Asset Codes in Asset Master, you have to provide Asset Codes in Asset Retirement Derivation Rule, so that system can derive proper values as per your derivate rule. You have to maintain the following derivation rule for Asset Retirement:
Transaction Type (TT)+Asset Code (To-From)+Document Type(DT)=Target Commitment Item
Mention all the Asset Code number ranges maintained in the system, while Document Type AA will be used for TT 200 (Retirement without Revenue) and Document Type DR will be used for TT 210 (Retirement with Revenue). You can derive statistical or dummy commitment item (60 and 3) for processing of transaction.
Further, you can also add cost centre as source field to derive funds centre. Also make sure you keep the rule in the logical order, since it may affect the derivation of fields. Also check note 666322 to make use of trace feature to ensure proper derivation of values.
I hope this will resolve the issue.
Regards,
Amar Lal
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I entered Functional Module to read Asset Master data in derivation Rule. While procuring an Asset after selecting an asset the fund center, fund are coming automatically but Internal Order and Cost center is not picking automatically.
It has to pick Internal Order automatically from Asset master data.
Please guide me.
Regards,
SreeHi,
Internal order should come from the asset master data, with no connection to derivation strategy in FM. Regarding the cost centre, it's irrelevant when you purchase to an asset.
Regards,
Eli -
Asset Retirement (Legacy assets) high priority
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Dear Friends,
I am doing retirement for Legacy assets using F-92 transaction code .i selected transaction type 210 . it is giving following error
Retirement of old assets data not possible (No existing old assets data) for some asset class assets
and some asset class assets i am getting following error
Posting with trans.type 210 not possible (No acquisition posted) but values are there in legacy asset(take over values tab)
why some asset class assets are getting Retirement of old assets data not possible and some asset class assets are getting No acquisition posted
for normal assets created using AS01 no error is coming
some Legacy asset class assets retirement happening fine
plz suggest which transaction type has to use for legacy assets or need to create separate transaction type for legacy assets
we are using group asset concept
errors are
Retirement of old assets data not possible (No existing old assets data)
Message no. AA416
Diagnosis
You have tried to post an retirement based on amount, using a transaction type which refers to old assets data (acquisitions from previous years).
However, the sum of the APC at the start of the fiscal year and the transactions, related to the past, equals 0.
Procedure
Check the transaction type entered and the asset.
Posting with trans.type 210 not possible (No acquisition posted)
Message no. AA324
Diagnosis
Transaction type 210 belongs to a transaction type group, which can only be used to post to assets to which posting has already been performed. However, no postings have been made to this asset.
Procedure
Use a transaction type from a transaction type group, which can be used for the first acquisition to an asset.
Regards
Govind
Edited by: Govind Yadav on Jul 8, 2008 10:24 PM
Edited by: Govind Yadav on Jul 8, 2008 10:26 PM
Edited by: Govind Yadav on Jul 8, 2008 10:27 PMHi,
If you are doing upload of legacy assets each year wise, then you have to AJRW for every year.
Another way-- you can set your legacy asset takeover date as same as your last closed FY end date, by keeping this date as takeover date you may not be able to run any asset balances report with a report date, which is prior to your takeover date.
For ex: if your takeover date is 31.03.2009, then you cannot run balances report with a report date <31.03.2009
For dep rate changes issue----
You have create your legacy asset with a dep key, which should have the rate of dep from takeover date only.
Whatever depreciation rate changes happend before takeover cannot be maintained in the asset master, since SAP will not calculates dep prior to takeover date. Since system will calculates dep from 01.04.2009 (according to example date) with the rate, which is appilicable from 01.04.2009 only.
What you have to do is, you need to create your dep key with currenct dep rate only and maintain the same in your legacy asset. So while creating through AS91, you need to maintain the APC value (original purchase price) Accum dep ( this amount might have derived from various dep rate calculations outside system till takeover).
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Srinu -
Error while Asset retirement by scrapping.
Hi ,
We are getting following error while doing asset retirement by scrapping using transaction ABAVN.
"Transaction in area 10 contradicts the net book value rule." Message no. AA660.
Following are the asset values.
Area 01 : Acq. value 64578.00, Ord depre 12806.92 , Net book value: 51771.08.
Area 10 : Acq. value 64578.00, Ord depre 29970.80, Net book value: 34607.20.
Pl. help
ShripadHi,
when trying to retire an asset linked to a group asset, please carefully check the values on your group asset.
Sometimes the error occurs if a dep. area is assigned to a group asset and the transactions on this area amount to zero.
May I invite you to review below notes also. You may find, that certain constellations with your situation could
be valid, too.
136634 AA660 Credit memo in subsequent year
32901 General information on the memo value
14028 Error message AA660 or 632 during retirement/transfer
141656 Negative net book value, neg. APC, below zero depreciation
327088 Definition of the delivered transfer variants
regards Bernhard -
Asset Retirement: Asset Sale without customer (ABAON)
Hi Experts,
While posting Asset Retirement in ABAON, error occurs as "SYST: You can not determine the period for rule 02 to 23.03.11".
Here we are retiring 3 assets. One from one asset class & other 2 from another asset class.
for the 1st Asset Class- period ctrl. method is 006 and in T-code AFAMP, in retirement column rule for 006 is defined as 11, which means "Next Month". AND...........
for 2nd Asset class- period ctrl. method is 003 and in T-code AFAMP, in retirement column rule for 003 is defined as 02, which means "Pro Rata upto mid-period at period start date."
Now I think problem is there for 2nd asset class as rule 02 can not determine the period according to error.
Please explain the logic? What axactly system is saying? and how can I solve this issue?
Regards,
Nilesh
Edited by: NileshSB on Mar 31, 2011 6:36 AMHi Nilesh
Nice to know the issue has been resolved.
OAVH is used to determine the relationship between posting intervals and periods in the given fiscal year version. The assignment entries in OAVH have to be changed in the following cases:
u2022 You use period control rules you defined yourself.
u2022 You change the definition of the periods in the fiscal year version in Financial Accounting.
As you noticed, case you use a year-dependent fiscal year variant, then you have to perform OA84 to generate period controls properly.
For more information, you can refer to IMG documentation in following IMG menu path:
IMG: Asset Accounting -> Depreciation -> Valuation Methods -> Period Control -> Define Calender Assignments (OAVH) / Generate Period Controls (OA84)
Regards
George -
Asset Retirement: Transaction "Asset Sale without customer" (ABAON)
Hi Experts,
While posting Asset Retirement in ABAON, error occurs as "SYST: You can not determine the period for rule 02 to 23.03.11".
Here we are retiring 3 assets. One from one asset class & other 2 from another asset class.
for the 1st Asset Class- period ctrl. method is 006 and in T-code AFAMP, in retirement column rule for 006 is defined as 11, which means "Next Month". AND...........
for 2nd Asset class- period ctrl. method is 003 and in T-code AFAMP, in retirement column rule for 003 is defined as 02, which means "Pro Rata upto mid-period at period start date."
Now I think problem is there for 2nd asset class as rule 02 can not determine the period according to error.
Please explain the logic? What axactly system is saying? and how can I solve this issue?
Regards,
NileshHi Nilesh
Nice to know the issue has been resolved.
OAVH is used to determine the relationship between posting intervals and periods in the given fiscal year version. The assignment entries in OAVH have to be changed in the following cases:
u2022 You use period control rules you defined yourself.
u2022 You change the definition of the periods in the fiscal year version in Financial Accounting.
As you noticed, case you use a year-dependent fiscal year variant, then you have to perform OA84 to generate period controls properly.
For more information, you can refer to IMG documentation in following IMG menu path:
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George -
Hi Gurus
I am Getting A Problem While POsting Asset Retirement, As it Is giving the Error While GiVing The Fixed Asset Gl As Follwing
Rules for posting key 50 and acct 3520500 set incorrectly for "XAABG" field
Message no. F5272
Diagnosis
One of the rules specifies that the field demands a required entry, the other rule says that the field is to be suppressed.
Procedure
Correct one of the two rules for the field selection.
You find the field status group in the G/L account master record:
Execute function
You can find the rules for the field status group in the Financial Accounting Implementation Guide in the activity Maintain field status variants.
You can find the posting key in the Financial Accounting Implementation Guide in the activity
Define posting key.
I had Checked the FSG And The Posting Key But I am Unable To Solve The Error Plz Help
I had Changed the Field Status Of asset Retirement Field As required
If It Is The Mistake I had Removed it , Where As I am Not Getting the Field retieremnt In the Sale Of Fixed Asset Screen
Regards
Prasanna
Edited by: prasanna raj on Oct 13, 2008 8:02 AMWhen we go for posting a retirement of asset with revenue, 2 sets of process takes place.
Loss Profit
a. 01 Customer Dr 5000 15000
50 Revenue Cr (5000) (15000)
b. 75 Asset Cr. (35000) (35000)
70 Accumulated Dep. Dr. 27000 27000
40 Revenue Dr. 5000 15000
50 Profit Cr. (7000)
40 Loss Dr. 3000
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COPA Derivation rule not running in background
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We are encountering a strange problem during derviation in document posting & creation of assets.
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Order number Assigned Material Group
Z0000000001 = 001210
The problem is that we have to manually go into the PA segment and click the derivation button OR just press enter to get the derivation working.
If we do not access the PA segment area then the derivation is not carried out in the background.
I have tried searching for notes and for some relevancy on the forums.
I have also taken screen-shots and uploaded them, please view in order.
Derivation Rule
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/zkage/Deriv1.jpg
Document Posting(Deriv rule not picked even order is placed)
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/zkage/deriv2.jpg
The PA segment before pressing enter or the button derivation
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/zkage/deriv4.jpg
The PA segment after pressing the button
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/zkage/deriv3.jpg
We require that the derivation runs in the background after we enter the line item details. The system is not picking the derivation if we directly post the document without checking the PA segment.
If there is some BADI or user exit we could use to manually replace the COPA characteristics explicitly at document posting, please let me know
Thank YouHi,
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Moves it let you copy a constant or the content of the source field to target field.
With regards
krishna -
Error In T.code F-92 (Asset retirement)
Hi All
I am posing Asset retirement by using the transaction code F-92
but when i input the asset no, the system is giving me the following error .
Transaction in area 01 contradicts the net book value rule
Message no. AA660
Diagnosis
The document cannot be posted, as it is contrary to the net book value
rule which is checked in area 01.
Procedure
This error usually occurs when you enter proportional values. The
proportional values exceed the amount posted, for example, post
capitalization of 100 but proportional depreciation to the amount 110.
Check your entries and correct them if necessary.
Is there any way to resolve this issue ?
Thanks & Regards,
DDTHi Friend,
Generally this type of message will come when there is an incompatability in depreciation area.
Please check in the following path:
SPRO -
> Financial Accounting -> Asset Accounting -> Valuation--> Depreciation Areas -
> Define Depreciation Areas...
Select the appropriate Chart of Depreciation and Depreciation area.
There are 10 setting given under "Value Maintenance " Tab button.
Please check and change accordingly. I guess you should select " Net Book values" (2nd one) with all values.
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Please check it.
Reward if you find it is useful.....
Thanks & Regards
Ravi C -
Assigning constant value to Account Derivation Rule for FA
Hi,
I have the following requirement for SLA in FA
Requirement :
Cost of Removal Gain should pick the segment1(balancing segment) value from Asset Assignment screen and rest all segments from Book level when the CC <> 'XXXX' (particular CC) and A/C <> 'XXXXXX' (particular a/c).
I have created a custom ADR, in which i had mapped the Expense Account Code Combination identifier for balancing segment. But i am unable to put the condition(where the CC <> 'XXXX' (particular CC) and A/C <> 'XXXXXX' (particular a/c)) in the condition screen.
How can i map the above condition in ADR?
Thanks in advance
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RajkamalHi
In COPA Derivation rules you can only map characteristic.. i mean you can derive only Characteristic values not for Value fields.
Value fields are normally mapped with SD conditions or GL accounts.
If you want to manipulate or recalculate the values flowing into value fields you need to use enhancements.
In this step you can set up system enhancements which are not supported in the standard R/3 System. These so-called "standard enhancements" can be used in the following areas of Profitability Analysis as below.
Derivation of characteristic values (COPA0001)
Valuation (COPA0002)
Direct postings to profitability segments (COPA0003)
Currency translation (COPA0004)
Actual data update (COPA0005)
Hope this helps
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Venkat -
Commitment item can not derived from main asset number
Dear all,
Our client have 1 G/L LVA and divided to many asset class LVA. Asset lva will post to general expense when run depreciation, and they want the acquisition/procurement of LVA should check the budget of the general expense.
It means the acquisition of LVA will check the budget of general expense, then no budget when run depreciation.
I already setting for no check budget for run depreciation. However, i found trouble when set the derivation from main asset number to commitment item. I want to set from main asset number because only 1 G/L LVA.
Derivation rule from main asset number not populated to commitment item which i'm expecting, example
FMDERIVE (1) CI from main asset number (for acquisition)
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2290000001 2290000001
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I already give many condition however it can not work. Even i deactivate fmderive (2), asset number can not populate to relevant commitment item.
Please give me advice how derive the commitment item from main asset number or relevan things.
Regards,
DewiHi Dewi
Please have a look at these notes which I think are interesting:
[736914|https://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/736914] Budget relevance of asset transactions
[1268001|https://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/1268001] FI313 - No funds center entered/derived
So, if you need to derive the FMAA from the Asset master data, you could enable a derivation step calling function module FMDT_READ_MD_ASSET. Take care of following derivation steps which may be overwriting the derived values from FMDT_READ_MD_ASSET. See the trace log, according to note [666322|https://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/666322]
Cheers
Mar -
Hi All,
Can anyone send me generic Derivation rules for FM integration with Asset Accounting(AA), HR & MM for ECC6.0?
I am battling to get the derivation rules right for integration with these modules in ECC6.
Information can also be sent to my mailbox.
Tx.hI
from ERP5
The following customizing is now obsolete:
The settings "Unassigned Purchase Orders" and "Goods Issue" in Funds Management Updating Control (Transaction OFUP)
The setting "Assign Warehouse Funds Center" (Transaction FMLF)
The setting "Select Transaction Types" (Transaction OFBW)
Now you use a derivation rule in FMDERIVE
To ensure full compatibility with the old functionality the derivation tool provids three additional flags :
FLG_INVNTRY_PSTNG : Indicates that the current posting is an inventory posting
VAL_CLASS: Valuation Class
MOVE_TYPE: Movement Type (Inventory Management)
But you should know before the warehouse concept you need in your company as SAP proposes 4 warehouse concept.
Best regards
Salvator
But you can create warehouse funds center as a normal funds center and after create a simple derivation rule to link Plant, valution class to funds center
And another one to derive the stock commitment to the fund and the funds center
And another one described here
And of course don't forget the customising under integration of maintain field status for assignment FM account asignments for purchase requisitions and for purchase orders.
best regards
Salvator -
Regarding BAPI to complete ABAON Transaction ie Asset Retirement.
Dear Friends,
I am doing the Asset Retirement using BAPI_ASSET_RETIREMENT_POST.
I am able to do the retirement of the Asset.
But my requirement is to update the
Text, manual value in Transaction data Tab.
Reference, Assignment in Additional Details Tab.
Please tell me how to map these fields for this BAPI. Or if there is any other BAPI for Asset Retirement.
Regards,
Prathima Talari.Hi Nilesh
Nice to know the issue has been resolved.
OAVH is used to determine the relationship between posting intervals and periods in the given fiscal year version. The assignment entries in OAVH have to be changed in the following cases:
u2022 You use period control rules you defined yourself.
u2022 You change the definition of the periods in the fiscal year version in Financial Accounting.
As you noticed, case you use a year-dependent fiscal year variant, then you have to perform OA84 to generate period controls properly.
For more information, you can refer to IMG documentation in following IMG menu path:
IMG: Asset Accounting -> Depreciation -> Valuation Methods -> Period Control -> Define Calender Assignments (OAVH) / Generate Period Controls (OA84)
Regards
George -
Derivation Rule in report painter
I want Product describtion along with Product number. in a report. I have created a derivation rule through KEDR. and coppied the product describtionin the rule. Now how to use this derivation rule in the report.
Harish,
There is no need to define seprate derivation rule as product description is readily available in COPA tables.
Just select product description characterstics for available list while designing report.If report already exists then go to change mode and make nessesary changes.
Please call me for any more inputs.
Ashok -
Dear all,
I need a report on Asset Retirement which display the customer number and his description ( the one who bought the asset).
I used the report S_ALR_87100623 to manage the retirement and i didn't found an option to display the customer number & description.
Is there any solution or other transaction (report) to get it ?
Thank you in advance.Hello,
I tried already this report. But there is no information about the customer who baught the asset.
Any other solution ?
Edited by: Alexis.TN on Oct 12, 2009 12:44 PM
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