Derive Characteristic

Dear SAP Expert,
I would like to derive a field in VBRP table as a characteristic based on billing document number (CEST1-RBELN).
Billing Document number is available on COPA document under Administrative data tab.
However, at KEDR, it was not successful as it seems that at KEDR, all source tables are SO related tables. (No VBRK table is available as a source)
In our system, we don't have sales orders as billing documents are directly posted by an external system.
I appreciate it if you could kindly share your experience of deriving characteristics at KEDR without having SO.
Best Regards,
Kimiko

Hello Ajay,
Maintained the value in TKEZU table as below.
WWBD KEDR KOMK-BELNR
Maintained the derivation at KEDR
<Source Fields>
VBRP- VBELN = COPA-WWBD
VBRP-POSNR=COPA-KDPOS
<Target Fields>
VBRP-AKTNR=COPA-WWCPN
However, this did not work. Any pointer will be appreciated...
Best Regards,
Kimiko

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