Difference between Full backup and lncremental level 0 backup

Hi,
What is the difference between Full backup and lncremental level 0 backup?
what I understand is:
Actually incremental backup backups all the block containing data and skips the blocks that are unused.
Similarly full backup backups all the blocks containing data.(does it skip unused blocks ?????).
The only difference that I feel is that the level 0 backup is recorded as an incremental backup in the RMAN repository, so it can be used as the parent for a level 1 backup where Full database backup is not recorded in the Rman respository and cannot be used as parent for level 1 backup.
(if you still feel you have some more points to share regarding the difference between backups, I request to share with me)
so my question here is
Can we use Incremental level 0 backup for full database recovery. Else is there any compulsion like we must only use full database backup for full database recovery?
can anyone throw light on this
with regards;
Boo

nowhere in this thread we talked about the image copies as we are only talking about the incremental backup.
The word "always" has a meaning. If you now wish to say, "well, RMAN will mostly use a level 0 or full backup, except when there are image copies around" then the word "always" doesn't fit your newly-revised description. That would make it an inappropriate word to use. And indeed, it's a factually wrong word to use.
If you want to get really picky about it, incidentally, the words 'datafile copy' appear in a post from me at Aug 4, 2007 6:03 PM whereas your post (in which the "always" word was used) only appears Aug 4, 2007 8:32 PM -a full 2 and a half hours (and and two posts) AFTER the concept of image copies had been mentioned.
But regardless of times: you can't just pretend image copies don't exist just because they haven't been mentioned so far in a thread. If you post "this is the way something ALWAYS works", you'd better be completely right about it, because "ALWAYS" is a big word. And there's no grey about this: either "always" is right, or it's wrong. And in this case, it's wrong: there are many times when RMAN will not do what you baldly asserted it would do. Image copies aren't some rare, exotic beast, either... so the occasions when your 'rule' breaks down are many and common.
until now I was simply beliving in what Oracle docs and metalink notes says
Try not to do that. Because you will fall into error after error if you do. Metalink is not the Holy Gospel of Oracle. Testing is, and it's because I've been testing this stuff since 1999 I will, on this occasion, decline your kind invitation to do "a small test". Been there, done that.
All of which leaves us discussing things that are of no relevance to the original poster, and I have no desire to take the thread off into silly areas of dispute. So I will leave it there, and I have nothing further to say on the matter. RMAN does what it does, and what it does is not what you said it would do. End of story.

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