Difference between stateful and stateless session beans
can any body explain simply what is the difference between stateful and stateless session beans? also in what kind of situations we can use these.
Hi
This is the classificatio os Session Bean.
(1) Statfull
(2) Stateless
Stateful means u will persists the state of the object.
USESE:
In a Banking system u can use the statful session just for maintaing the
state.
(2) STATELESS: that's mean u do't want to persists any state of the object. that's mean a single Request is coming ,do the desire and give the output.
EX: A Credit Card System is the Example of Stateless.
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