Distributed cache in custom developement.

Why it is not recommended to use distributed caching in custom development in SP2013? Is there a reason, other than the concern of overwriting the cache used by SharePoint?
If that would be the concern, any precautions we can take to overcome it?

I think without a scope and priority defined for SharePoint named caches, custom named caches in SharePoint Distributed Cache cluster may evict SharePoint named caches if their usage is higher than that of SharePoint. I think the eviction algorithm is
based on 2 criteria: the named caches which has been accessed for the least number of times or named caches which were not accessed for the longest time.
This post is my own opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinion or view of Slalom.

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Programmatically use distributed caching in SharePoint 2013?

As per below TechNet article, developers are not allowed to use the AppFabric instance that comes with SharePoint 2013. The expectation is to deploy a seperate AppFabric cluster for custom applications.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj219572.aspx#Important
Distributed caching was a long waited, nice SharePoint feature but it does not make sense to restrict developer access to this. We have a requirement to cache fairly smaller amount of data (must be distributed), but cannot deploy a separate Cache servers
for this. What are my options (other than System.Web.Caching)? Is there an API to safely cache smaller amount of data? What is the rationale behind restricting access to default AppFabric instance come with SharePoint?
Thanks in Advance,
Amal

Yes, it's just a thread-safe implementation of object cache and not a distributed cache. Probably the reason behind recommending to use a separate AppFabric cache cluster is that additional named caches of custom solutions and applications will
interfere with SharePoint named caches. Without a scope and priority defined, the named caches of custom solutions may start evicting SharePoint items if their usage is much higher than that of SharePoint ones.
AppFabric Caching and SharePoint: Concepts and Examples (Part
1)
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Distributed Cache gets are very time consuming!!!!!

We have an application that uses Coherence as a distributed partitioned cache server.
Our problem is that the access to the near cache is very fast but the access to the remote servers is very cpu consuming (maybe for the deserialization of the objects retrieved) at such point that disabling the cache and reading the objects directly from the dbms (Oracle) improves the performances.
We use coherence as the second level cache of hibernate so we have not much control on how hibernate serialize and deserialize it's objects (we cannot implement a custom externalization).
Have you any experience of performance problems with the combination hibernate/tangosol and distributed cache?

Hi Giancarlo,
It's Jon, not Cameron ;)
The Hibernate cache API (including 3.0) does not support bulk-fetches from cache, which means that these cache fetches are serial rather than parallel. Depending on how much of your performance problem is network related, Coherence may actually perform much better than straight JDBC as the application load increases (time per request will remain similar, but won't increase much under heavier load).
The advantage to using the Coherence API (rather than Hibernate API) is that you have far better control over how your queries run. The drawback of course is that you have to code your own queries if they become more complex than search queries. As a result, it often makes sense to use Hibernate (or equivalent) for the bulk of your queries, then code specific queries directly against Coherence when performance really matters. A simple example of this is the ability to perform bulk gets (using <tt>NamedCache.getAll()</tt>). With queries that return hundreds or thousands of items, this can have a huge impact on performance (an order of magnitude or more depending on object complexity). You also get the ability to use XmlBean/ExternalizableLite and cluster-parallel search queries.
As an aside, with the Coherence cache servers, you should avoid making your JVM heaps excessively large. As a general rule of thumb, we recommend a 512MB heap size for cache servers, using as many instances as required to reach your desired cache capacity. Also, from what I've seen, 64-bit JVMs are less efficient with memory usage than 32-bit (though performance seems a bit better on the x86-64 platforms vs the 32-bit versions).
Jon Purdy
Tangosol, Inc.

Distributed Cache service stuck in Starting Provisioning

Hello,
I'm having problem with starting/stopping Distributed Cache service in one of the SharePoint 2013 farm servers. Initially, Distributed Cache was enabled in all the farm servers by default and it was running as a cluster. I wanted to remove it from all hosts
but one (APP server) using below PowerShell commands, which worked fine.
Stop-SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance -Graceful
Remove-SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance
But later I attempted to add the service back to two hosts (WFE servers) using below command and unfortunately one of them got stuck in the process. When I look at the Services on Server from Central Admin, the status says "Starting".
Add-SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance
Also, when I execute below script, the status says "Provisioning".
Get-SPServiceInstance | ? {($_.service.tostring()) -eq "SPDistributedCacheService Name=AppFabricCachingService"} | select Server, Status
I get "cacheHostInfo is null" error when I use "Stop-SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance -Graceful".
I tried below script,
$instanceName ="SPDistributedCacheService Name=AppFabricCachingService"
$serviceInstance = Get-SPServiceInstance | ? {($_.service.tostring()) -eq $instanceName -and ($_.server.name) -eq $env:computername}
$serviceInstance.Unprovision()
$serviceInstance.Delete()
,but it didn't work either, and I got below error.
"SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance", could not be deleted because other objects depend on it. Update all of these dependants to point to null or
different objects and retry this operation. The dependant objects are as follows:
SPServiceInstanceJobDefinition Name=job-service-instance-{GUID}
Has anyone come across this issue? I would appreciate any help.
Thanks!

Hi ,
Are you able to ping the server that is already running Distributed Cache on this server? For example:
ping WFE01
As you are using more than one cache host in your server farm, you must configure the first cache host running the Distributed Cache service to allow Inbound ICMP (ICMPv4) traffic through the firewall.If an administrator removes the first cache host from
the cluster which was configured to allow Inbound ICMP (ICMPv4) traffic through the firewall, you must configure the first server of the new cluster to allow Inbound ICMP (ICMPv4) traffic through the firewall.
You can create a rule to allow the incoming port.
For more information, you can refer to the blog:
http://habaneroconsulting.com/insights/Distributed-Cache-Needs-Ping#.U4_nmPm1a3A
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Eric
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How can i configure Distributed cache servers and front-end servers for Streamlined topology in share point 2013??

my question is regarding SharePoint 2013 Farm topology. if i want go with Streamlined topology and having (2 distribute cache and Rm servers+ 2 front-end servers+ 2 batch-processing servers+ cluster sql server) then how distributed servers will
be connecting to front end servers? Can i use windows 2012 NLB feature? if i use NLB and then do i need to install NLB to all distributed servers and front-end servers and split-out services? What will be the configuration regarding my scenario.
Thanks in Advanced!

For the Distributed Cache servers, you simply make them farm members (like any other SharePoint servers) and turn on the Distributed Cache service (while making sure it is disabled on all other farm members). Then, validate no other services (except for
the Foundation Web service due to ease of solution management) is enabled on the DC servers and no end user requests or crawl requests are being routed to the DC servers. You do not need/use NLB for DC.
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Foundation 2013 Farm and Distributed Cache settings

We are on a 3 tier farm - 1 WFE + 1APP + 1SQL - have had many issues with AppFab and Dist Cache; and an additional issue with noderunner/Search Services. Memory and CPU running very high. Read that we shouldn't be running Search
and Dist Cache in the same server, nor using a WFE as a cache host. I don't have the budget to add another server in my environment.
I found an article (IderaWP_CachingFormSharePointPerformance.pdf) saying "To make use of SharePoint's caching capabilities requires a Server version of the platform." because it requires the publishing feature, which Foundation doesn't have.
So, I removed Distributed Cache (using Powershell) from my deployment and disabled the AppFab. This resolved 90% of server errors but performance didn't improve. Now, not only I'm getting errors now on Central Admin. - expects Dist Cache
- but I'm getting disk operations reading of 4000 ms.
Questions:
1) Should I enable AppFab and disable cache?
2) Does Foundation support Dist Cache? Do I need to run Distributed Cache?
3) If so, can I run with just 1 cache host? If I shouldn't run it on a WFE or an App server with Search, do I have to stop Search all together? What happens with 2 tier farms out there?
4) Reading through the labyrinth of links on TechNet and MSDN on the subject, most of them says "Applies to SharePoint Server".
5) Anyone out there on a Foundation 2013 production environment that could share your experience?
Thanks in advance for any help with this!
Monica
Monica

That article is referring to BlobCache, not Distributed Cache. BlobCache requires Publishing, hence Server, but DistributedCache is required on all SharePoint 2013 farms, regardless of edition.
I would leave your DistCache on the WFE, given the App Server likely runs Search. Make sure you install
AppFabric CU5 and make sure you make the changes as noted in the KB for
AppFabric CU3.
You'll need to separately investigate your disk performance issues. Could be poor disk layout, under spec'ed disks, and so on. A detail into the disks that support SharePoint would be valuable (type, kind, RPM if applicable, LUNs in place, etc.).
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Limitation on number of objects in distributed cache

Hi,
Is there a limitation on the number (or total size) of objects in a distributed cache? I am seeing a big increase in response time when the number of objects exceeds 16,000. Normally, the ServiceMBean.RequestAverageDuration value is in the 6-8ms range as long as the number of objects in the cache is less than 16K - I've run our application for weeks at a time without seeing any problems. However, once the number of objects exceeds the magic number of 16K the average request duration almost immediately jumps to over 100ms and continues to climb as more objects are added.
I'm fairly confident that the cache is indexed properly (as Dimitri helped us with that). Are there any configuration changes that could possibly help out here? We are using Coherence 3.3.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim

Hi Jim,
The results from the load test look quite normal, the system fairly quickly stabilizes at a particular performance level and remains there for the duration of the test. In terms of latency results, we see that the cache.putAll operations are taking ~45ms per bulk operation where each operation is putting 100 1K items, for cache.getAll operations we see about ~15ms per bulk operation. Additionally note that the test runs over 256,000 items, so it is well beyond the 16,000 limit you've encountered.
So it looks like your application are exhibiting different behavior then this test. You may wish to try to configure this test to behave as similarly to yours as possible. For instance you can set the size of the cache to just over/under 16,000 using the -entries parameter, set the size of the entries to 900 bytes using the -size parameter, and set the total number of threads per worker using the -threads parameter.
What is quite interesting is that at 256,000 1K objects the latency measured with this test is apparently less then half the latency you are seeing with a much smaller cache size. This would seem to point at the issue being related to or rooted in your test. Would you be able to provide a more detailed description of how you are using the cache, and the types of operations you are performing.
thanks,
mark

How to register custom report under Custom Development Application

Hi 2 all
How to register custom report under the Custom Development application in R12 vision DB, and also confirm location/folder of Custom Development application in R12.
Thanks
Zulqarnain

Hi,
You may or may not need to "register" the workflow - it depends on the changes that you made and which Item Type you modified. Some applications are essentially hard-coded to use a specific item type and process, some hard-coded to use an item type but you can configure the process to use, and some allow you to specify which item type and which process to use.
Without knowing exactly what you have done, though, there is no specific advice that anyone can give you here on what you need to do, apart from to ensure that you have saved the new definition to the database.
HTH,
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The custom development is not visible .

Hi Gurus,
I am trying to do the custom developments in SAP CRM 7 .
Eg : Creating a new component with a table view .
When I am trying to execute the custom development , Internet explorer opens but I cant see any thing .
Not even frame .
NOTE : Its not throwing any error .
Eg 2 : Adding a new view in the overview page of an existing component .
I cant see the assignment block in the view set configuration .
Is there any configuration need to be done for making the custom developments available ?
NOTE : This is a new system .
Thanks in advance .
Naval
Edited by: naval bhatt on Jul 22, 2011 11:37 AM

Hi Naval,
Please check whether you added your view under the main window in Runtime Repository.
Regards,
Lakshmi.Y

Error message when using a MessageListener using a distributed cache

Hi --
I'm getting the following error message when I attach a message listener to a distributed cache. I get the same message if I attach the listener to the NearCache in front of the DistributedCache, or to the DistributedCache itself.
My message listener listens for a create() operation and writes the created value out to the database. Both the key and value are java objects that are getting "serialized" when they're pushed in the cache. The listener is never called.
The error spits out two messages, which look like:
2003-04-07 21:48:05.281 Tangosol Coherence 2.1/239 <Error> (thread=DistributedCache:EventDispatcher): An exception occurred while dispatching this event:
CacheEvent: MapEvent{com.tangosol.coherence.component.util.daemon.queueProcessor
.service.DistributedCache$BinaryMap added: key=Binary(length=269, value=0x0005AC
ED000573720021636F6D2E6F6C742E646174612E696E7465726E616C2E4461746162617365554944
6FABB5383C6013B402000078720021636F6D2E6F6C742E646174612E696E7465726E616C2E416273
7472616374554944D04F591196E4DC1B0200024C000D657874656E73696F6E4461746174000F4C6A
6176612F7574696C2F4D61703B4C0009756964537472696E677400124C6A6176612F6C616E672F53
7472696E673B7870737200116A6176612E7574696C2E486173684D61700507DAC1C31660D1030002
46000A6C6F6164466163746F724900097468726573686F6C6478703F400000000000087708000000
0B0000000078740011363930395F436F6D706F6E656E74426964), value=Binary(length=1069,
value=0x0005ACED000573720026636F6D2E6562726576696174652E61756374696F6E2E6269642
E436F6D706F6E656E744269648EC95C4DE33A88D802000D5A0007626573744269644A000B6269645
3657175656E6365440004636F73745A0007696E697469616C5A00066E65774269645A00067469654
2696444000576616C75654C000B61756374696F6E4D6F64657400294C636F6D2F656272657669617
4652F61756374696F6E2F6576656E742F41756374696F6E4D6F64653B4C000A61756374696F6E554
9447400124C636F6D2F6F6C742F646174612F5549443B4C000A636F6D70616E7955494471007E000
24C000C636F6D706F6E656E7455494471007E00024C000A737472696E67436F73747400124C6A617
6612F6C616E672F537472696E673B4C000B737472696E6756616C756571007E00037872002D636F6
D2E6562726576696174652E636F6D6D6F6E2E416273747261637450657273697374656E744F626A6
56374497E2729A24CA5790200034C000A637265617465446174657400104C6A6176612F7574696C2
F446174653B4C000375696471007E00024C000A7570646174654461746571007E000578707372000
E6A6176612E7574696C2E44617465686A81014B59741903000078707708000000F46B9A286278737
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C6013B402000078720021636F6D2E6F6C742E646174612E696E7465726E616C2E416273747261637
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574696C2F4D61703B4C0009756964537472696E6771007E00037870737200116A6176612E7574696
C2E486173684D61700507DAC1C31660D103000246000A6C6F6164466163746F72490009746872657
3686F6C6478703F4000000000000877080000000B0000000078740011363930395F436F6D706F6E6
56E744269647371007E00077708000000F46B9A286278000000000000000000402E0000000000000
00000402E00000000000073720027636F6D2E6562726576696174652E61756374696F6E2E6576656
E742E41756374696F6E4D6F6465BD0C9E245C328B4F02000078720029636F6D2E656272657669617
4652E636F6D6D6F6E2E41627374726163745479706553616665456E756D506D8C41B0144DB302000
249000A696E744C69746572616C4C000D737472696E674C69746572616C71007E000378700000000
374000A50524F44554354494F4E7371007E00097371007E000D3F4000000000000877080000000B0
00000007874000A38335F41756374696F6E7371007E00097371007E000D3F4000000000000877080
000000B000000007874000A34325F436F6D70616E797371007E00097371007E000D3F40000000000
00877080000000B00000000787400103131315F426964436F6D706F6E656E747070)}
2003-04-07 21:48:05.687 Tangosol Coherence 2.1/239 <Warning> (thread=CoherenceLogger): Asynchronous logging character limit exceeded; discarding 3 log messages (lines=17, chars=1416)

Kris,
First of all you should increase the value of logging-config/character-limit element in tangosol-coherence.xml to see the message entirely. The default setting is 4096 which is not enough to see your exception text.
When you do that I believe you will see that the actual exception is java.lang.ClassNotFoundException indicating that the node that has the listener installed doesn't know about the class that is being put into the cache and could be easily fixed as shown here: http://www.tangosol.com/faq-coherence.jsp#classnotfound
Please let me know if that doesn't help.
Gene

Creation of New Custom Development Object in Solar02

Hi,
We are trying to create an object type of Form for a new custom development object in solar02 under tab Development,and for this I get an error that the object doesn’t exist in development environment.
Based on my analysis, it looks like Solution Manager only allows to link pre-existing development objects but not creating new objects. Is that right? If not please advice how can we add new custom objects through solution manager.
Thanks & Regards,
Sandeep Alapati

hi,
solar01/02 is the tools for documenation, it is not for creating objects.
basically it should allow you to enter any developement objects names, irerespective of whether they are created in the back end system or not.
please provide the screenshots.
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Jansi

Post Upgrade Step "Adjust custom development"

Hello all:
Based on your BI 3.x to 7.0 upgrade experience, I wanted some insight on the post upgrade step "Adjust custom development per note 857904". Can you please share how you handled this, any details of activities done here...any tips?
Thanks,
Pravin

Hi Pravin,
Hope this helps you -
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/472443f2-0c01-0010-20ab-fbd380d45881 - you can use this checklist for 2004s too!
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Distributed cache

HI,
We have a server (Server 1), on which the status of the Distributed cache was in "Error Starting" state.
While applying a service pack due to some issue we were unable to apply the path (Server 1) so we decided to remove the effected server from the farm and work on it. the effected server (Server 1) was removed from the farm through the configuration wizard.
Even after running the configuration wizard we were still able to see the server (Server 1) on the SharePoint central admin site (Servers in farm) when clicked, the service "Distributed cache" was still visible with a status "Error Starting",
tried deleting the server from the farm and got an error message, the ULS logs displayed the below.
A failure occurred in SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance::UnprovisionInternal. cacheHostInfo is null for host 'servername'.
8130ae9c-e52e-80d7-aef7-ead5fa0bc999
A failure occurred SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance::UnprovisionInternal()... isGraceFulShutDown 'False' , isGraceFulShutDown, Exception 'System.InvalidOperationException: cacheHostInfo is null at Microsoft.SharePoint.DistributedCaching.Utilities.SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance.UnProvisionInternal(Boolean
isGraceFulShutDown)'
8130ae9c-e52e-80d7-aef7-ead5fa0bc999
A failure occurred SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance::UnProvision() , Exception 'System.InvalidOperationException: cacheHostInfo is null at Microsoft.SharePoint.DistributedCaching.Utilities.SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance.UnProvisionInternal(Boolean
isGraceFulShutDown) at Microsoft.SharePoint.DistributedCaching.Utilities.SPDistributedCacheServiceInstance.Unprovision()'
8130ae9c-e52e-80d7-aef7-ead5fa0bc999
We are unable to perform any operation install/repair of SharePoint on the effected server (Server 1), as the server is no longer in the farm, we are unable to run any powershell commands.
Questions:-
What would cause that to happen?
Is there a way to resolve this issue? (please provide the steps)
Satyam

Hi
try this:
http://edsitonline.com/2014/03/27/unexpected-exception-in-feedcacheservice-isrepopulationneeded-unable-to-create-a-datacache-spdistributedcache-is-probably-down/
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How to deploy custom development with JDI

We use JDI to deploy webdynpro for ESS application. for that we create a track, check in ESS components in the track and set up run time systems. now we are going to do custom development, for example: create interactive forms, etc.. we would like to use the same procedure to deploy modifications, but we could not found any software components to check in for the track. we are wondering, what should we do for our customer development? how do we create track without any software components?
Thanks
Jane Zhou

Hi
U can create the prduct and component by logging to SLD
http://hostname:port/sld
and then clicking on software catlog...
regards
Krishna

How to deploy custom development

We use JDI to deploy webdynpro for ESS application. for that we create a track, check in ESS components in the track and set up run time systems. now we are going to do custom development, for example: create interactive forms, etc.. we would like to use the same procedure to deploy modifications, but we could not found any software components to check in for the track. we are wondering, what should we do for our customer development? how do we create track without any software components? If we don't use JDI, how do you get the modifications in to development environment after they are tested in NWDI? Do you allow developers to connect to sdm for development system driectly?
Thanks
Jane Zhou

Hi,
For that we should be creating a software component in SLD.
Define the required DC's for that.
After doing this we need to create track for this software component.
From then the way to develop will be same as modifying any ESS application the only change will be instead of saying create project in inactive DC's we say create application for the new Software component.
Regards,
Nagaraju Donikena.

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