Do duotones have to be converted to CMYK prior to PDF for publication?

Hi, we have a series of duotone images for publication, created in Photoshop CS4.
The duotones are saved as EPS files, imported into InDesign and exported as PDF files.
We thought that would have been fine, but sight-unseen the printer is telling us he doesn't even know what duotones are (!) and that those duotones will have to be converted to CMYK and then exported again as PDF files.
Does this sound right? Do we have to do convert every image, or else it won't print?
It seemed to us that the duotone "mode" was designed for publication of b&w images, to increase tonality in the print. We figured that if they were saved as duotones and exported to PDF, that the PDF file would be sufficient. So, what then is the point of converting duotones if the printer is then going to turn around and say, nope, can't do it that way?
I checked instructional tutorials and Adobe "help," but can't find the answer.
Help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, Kelli & Dave
(*cross-posted at the PhotoShop forum.)

If you make use of spot colors n your duotones and your printer only accepts CMYK files some action may be needed somewhere.
Easiest approach: convert to CMYK using Acrobat Pro (Convert colors feature) or specialized Acrobat plug-ins/tools like pdfToolbox 4 from callas software.
Olaf
callas software

Similar Messages

  • Convert to CMYK or Export PDF?

    I am putting together a big catalog project. In previous projects I converted all images to cmyk before ripping the pdf for final press print. Since the pdf export can convert to cmyk can I leave everything as is (RGB) and do the convert on export or can this cause prepress issues?
    rob

    There shouldn't be any prepress issues, but there are potential quality considerations.
    Converting to CMYK first allows you to tweak the color and do the sharpening after conversion. Doing the conversion during export means you have to sharpen first and accept the default color. In many cases this is not a big deal, but some folks, like me, are real control freaks. :)
    The big downside to doing the conversion first is you are stuck with a single output destination. Leaving things as RGB allows you to convert to to a variety of press conditions on the fly from the same file.
    Peter

  • Converting new CMYK logo to RGB for web, poor results

    I have a new logo using 4 cmyk colors. (we print a lot and always print cmyk, not spot/Pantone). When I convert to RGB, especially the blue and somewhat the green-- lose vibrancy. The blue is pure cyan, 100-0-0-0. The left image is a screen grab of cmyk and right is rgb. You often lose vibrancy going from RGB to CMYK, which is not surprising considering the limitations of CMYK. But why an issue going the reverse? Same result in photoshop & illustrator.
    What is the best way to create an RGB version of a CMYK or Pantone logo that is as consistent on the web as possible? This logo needs to be colorful and saturated, so the blue looking dull is more serious. Thanks.

    Use document >> color mode >> RGB. You will then have much more vibrancy when tweaking RGB colors, and be designing in a space that matches your output.
    If you have not color calibrated your monitor do that first. I would also hold up a printed piece to the monitor and match your RGB document to that. That will take away any monitor color shift to press.
    When you are done write down the RGB numbers, not the CMYK numbers, and use the RGB numbers for future RGB doucuments. I got 0, 155, 230 for my monitor calibration North AmericanGP2.

  • How do you convert to cmyk in aperture 3 for printing business cards?

    I'm wanting to make my own business cards and post cards online.  The printing companies want cmyk files.  How do I convert my photo files and pages files to cmyk?  I do not use Photoshop, only Aperture 3.5.1.
    Please keep it simple.  I'm an old dinosaur and could be your next tank of gas!
    Thanks

    You will need some External Photo editor, and you can get to to invoke from with Aperture.  For the price and function, I can recommend GraphicConverter.  Check it out in the Mac App Store for $39.95.
    Aperture will create a new master to send to GC, and in GC you click on Picture/Mode and choose CMYK.  Then simply click Save, and it will now be saved in the Aperture Library as CMYK.
    Aperture can archive the CMYK, but not convert it.
    Ernie

  • Duotones (EPS) for publication PDF (help!)

    Hi, we have a series of duotone images for publication, created in Photoshop CS4.
    The duotones are saved as EPS files, imported into InDesign and exported as PDF files.
    We thought that would have been fine, but sight-unseen the printer is telling us he doesn't even know what duotones are (!) and that those duotones will have to be converted to CMYK and then exported again as PDF files.
    Does this sound right? Do we have to do convert every image, or else it won't print?
    It seemed to us that the duotone "mode" was designed for publication of b&w images, to increase tonality in the print. I figured that if they were saved as duotones and exported to PDF, that the PDF file would be sufficient. So, what then is the point of converting duotones if the printer is then going to turn around and say, nope, can't do it that way?
    I checked instructional tutorials and Adobe "help," but can't find the answer.
    Help would be greatly appreciated.
    Thank you, Kelli & Dave

    Revert back to the original four-color images in Indesign, or use a quick Image > Mode > CMYK action and the Image Processor script to convert the duotone images to CMYK.
    I have found it hard / impossible to convert images on the fly from duotone to any other color space upon export from Indesign, but that's probably just my lack of expertise. You could also query the Acrobat forum; you might be able to convert the PDF to CMYK there with less hassle (though I wouldn't bet on it based my experience).

  • How to convert my whole website into PDF

    I have my own blog. How can I convert my whole blog into pdf for backup ?

    I am also looking for exact answer to backup my content of blog into PDF. So, How should I do for my blog ? Is there any software or tools for it?

  • Why does spot EPS not output when converted to CMYK or grayscale?

    Apologies if this is a known issue but I can't find it anywhere... I'm using AI CS3 (13.0.2) on an Intel iMac/Os 10.5.4 and I can't figure out why a white logo made from text outlines outputs fine to PDF if I use a spot color but if I change it to grayscale or CMYK, part of the logo doesn't output at all.
    The part which self-destructs is a supplied roundel of Caflisch text which has been converted to outlines (unfortunately I don't have the font on my system to do any deep testing). Another part of the supplied logo is a line drawing which outputs fine in any color mode.
    So I'm really looking for something to explain why the text part of this roundel outputs fine as a spot color but disappears from view when converted to CMYK or grayscale. I have been placing the file in a Quark 7.1 document and then exporting to PDF but I see the same problem when using the Flattener Preview.
    Thanks for any help.
    Simon

    Sorry for talking to myself like this -- been doing it for years...
    Finally found out what was wrong: the submitting designer had set the white coloured text objects to overprint. When I set them to knock out all was well.
    Kudos to Acrobat Pro Preflight for pinpointing the problem.
    Simon

  • Greyscale images convert to CMYK

    I have created an Illustrator file containing a spot color and a grayscale placed image. When saving as a pdf, the Grayscale image separates (or converts) to CMYK. Am on deadline and appreciate any help.

    What is your Document Color Mode (File menu)? Make sure that's RGB. Also make sure the image is grayscale in Photoshop, not CMYK or RGB.

  • After Preflighting a PDF, using Convert to CMYK, Flatten Transparency and Prepress Profile Convert to CMYK only the resultant PDF has a grubby halo along the edge of some white type sitting on an image. The type is part of the image.

    I am using a 27" iMac 3.2 GHz Intel Core 5, 8 GB Memory, running Yosemite 10.10.1. 
    The version of Acrobat that I am using is: Acrobat XI Version 11.0.10
    After Preflighting a PDF, using Convert to CMYK, Flatten Transparency (high resolution) and Prepress Profile "Convert to CMYK only" the resultant PDF has a grubby halo along the edge of some white type sitting on an image. The type is part of the image which is 300 dpi.
    It is like the image isn't really 300 dpi but has been artificially boosted to that to avoid being tagged by Preflighting, but when Preflighting the file it knows the original resolution.
    I have screen grabs which illustrate the problem perfectly but do not know how to post them, if indeed they can be.
    Any help or comments gratefully received.

    Without the files and possibly screen prints, it is virtually impossible to assist you.
              - Dov

  • Do any instances of RGB get converted to CMYK on output to PDF?

    Hi,
    I'm producing a HUGE catalogue that I've inherited from another designer. It will be going to print soon and I'll be providing the printers with a press ready PDF. The catalogue contains hundreds of individual blocks of colour (used to show colour options for a product). All of them are currently made of an RGB mix. Without having to go through each and every one changing to CMYK (there's no instance of each colour in the swatches pallet), is there a quicker way? Also, is it necessary anyway if I'm providing a PDF - I assume they get converted to CMYK in the final PDF?
    I've used InDesign for years but never inherited a previous design with so many RGB items in it!
    Thanks.

    It can also be done via scripting. This is AppleScript:
    tell application "Adobe InDesign CC 2014"
        tell document 1
            repeat with a from 1 to count of every color
                try
                    set space of color a to CMYK
                end try
            end repeat
        end tell
    end tell
    Also the converted CMYK numbers you get depends on the document's assigned CMYK profile (or the Color Settings' CMYK Working Space if there's no assignment). And the Intent and Black Point Compensation you choose in Color Settings can have a significant effect on the conversion numbers.

  • Convert to CMYK?

    How would I convert an RGB solid color to CMYK?

    Have a look at the ColorModel and ColorSpace classes for starters.
    kind regards,
    Jos

  • When (if ever) to convert to CMYK for printing?

    Hi, I've been doing a ton of Googling and forum searching for an answer to this question, but all of the answers I've been reading are very different and I have no idea which to follow. Essentially, I'm using PS and creating a 10'x10' backdrop for a trade show booth and am trying to figure out if I should start in RGB and convert to CMYK, or stay in RGB and let the printer convert to CMYK. The final deliverable will be in PDF format.
    Generally the two answers I've found online have been:
    1) If you're making something for print ALWAYS create the document in CMYK color before beginning, or convert to CMYK.
    2) NEVER work in CMYK, but instead work in RGB and then let the printer convert to CMYK at the end of the process.
    A third answer that has come up less often as been:
    1) Create all photos, gradients, etc. in Photoshop. Do all vectors in Illustrator. Bring them together in InDesign and export PDF from there.
    I'm sure on some level the answer to the question is situational, but the two primary answers people seem to give are complete opposites and I could use some guidance as to when to follow which one, or if one is a common misconception.

    Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to that yet. I've been trying to get all of the more detailed information from the printer, but they have been really slow with the responses despite them needing the design sometime tomorrow (the process was starter over a week ago ) and they have no further detail on their website regarding document setup.
    So from the sounds of it, assuming it's using an inkjet process it would probably remain in RGB, and if it's an offset process begin in CMYK?
    Also, the design is utilizing several adjustment layers in Photoshop and some of the layers have varying opacities, will those be affected by whatever the final printing method is?
    Thanks for you help. I don't have a lot of print experience as you can tell.

  • How do I keep Grayscale images from converting to CMYK

    I created my file in Framemaker 7.2 and imported Black and White grayscale images, when I wrote the postscript to create a PDF everything was fine until I did the preflight only to learn that my images have converted to CMYK...These graphics need to print grayscale not CMYK. I am working from the PC and this is a very large document.

    What format were the images in?
    Unless they were EPS or PDF formats, then FM7.2 would have converted
    everything to RGB on output, not CMYK.
    To get true postscript greys from equal RGB values, you must
    configure your PDF printer instance to output postscript grey.
    In the Printer control panel, select the Adobe PDF, then right-click
    and select Properties.
    Then on the Device Settings tab, set the following:
    Convert Gray Text to PostScript Gray: YES
    Convert Gray Graphics to PostScript Gray: YES
    Click OK to set.

  • While saving a file, I have converted all my files to Pdf.  The only way to restore previous is to delete Adobe.  Does anyone have a soution?

    While saving a file, I have converted all my files to Pdf.  This made everything inaccessible, even Explorer.  I had to delete Adobe to get back to some of the previous files.  I tried to restore system to previous, but I kept getting a pop up message that said I did not have enough shadow space.  Does anyone have a solution?  Greatly appreciate your help.

    Application, file icons change to Acrobat/Reader icon

  • I have subscribed to convert PDF to Excel and Word, I have followed your instructions and I get an error message all the time.

    I have subscribed to convert PDF file to an Excel or Word . I have followed your instructions to do so but I always get an error message. I have chated with one representative who suggested that I wait 24h before I try it again implying that my subscription is in process. the time span has elapsed and when i try it, I still get the error message. HELP ME or REFUND me the money

    "an error message" really doesn't tell us much.
    [topic moved to ExportPDF forum]

Maybe you are looking for

  • Can cs5 Re-link an entire timelime with ease?

    Hi All, I have a project that after 3 months,  now has 90 image sequences clips. Over time they are spread over 3 hard drives and multiple folders. All is well with cs5 for now, but I would like to put ALL of my targas & dpx files (which makes up the

  • News:  JDBInsight 2.1EA 40 - XA Transaction Performance Analysis

    JInspired has made available a new Early Access milestone build which previews its XA transaction analysis. JDBInsight is the only product on the market providing true in-depth JDBC resource transaction analysis in a J2EE environment. With its new XA

  • SALES ORDER BASED  STOCK TRANSFER ISSUE

    Sales order based planning                                              A                             B                              C            D                        E In this A (header material) is sales order item and B is sub assembly. D, E,

  • String to UTF8

    Hi! I need convert any string to UTF8 forma. Who? Thanks!

  • Old outlook file and New one...Same Job, different computer.

    Hey Everyone - I got kind of a unique situation (I think?) that I couldn't find an answer for.  My old work laptop (just for work email) had a graphic card meltdown and so I had to purchase a new computer.  I was able to pull the hard drive out of it