Doubt on Bundle IDoc in PI

Hi ,
We have a IDoc to File scenario .IDoc is not coming in bundled format from ECC .Could you please let me know the steps for bundling in PI to cross check .

Hi,
1)Change the occurrence of IDoc by exporting the std IDOC as a xsd and after changing the occurrence re import into PI using external definition.
http://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/XI/Changing+the+Occurrences+of+Standard+IDOC
2)In ID create the sender IDoc channel and provide the max package limit.
Regards
Venkat

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