Doubts in Shelf life scenarios........

Hi All,
I have some doubts regarding Shelf life scenarios:-
1. In material master there are 2 fields in Plant/stor.1 view those are Min. rem. shelf life and Total shelf life.
   the field "Total shelf life" is ok. this field means in how long the perticular product will get useless and we can decide it at the time of material master creation for ex. for a perticular material it may be 30 days or 4 months etc.
but how can be decide the field Min. rem. shelf life bcoz as I know its mean How many days are remaining to get the product useless.and we can decide this field, if we know the manufactring date of product and total shelf life. hence we can calculate it
as suppose total shelf life for a product= 30 days
                   Manufacturing date = 1 jan 2010
                   current date = 20 Jan 2010
so Min. rem. shelf life   = 10 days
but here in material master how to calculate Min. rem. shelf life,and why its mandatory field, if we put Total shelf life field.
2.whats the use of Rem. shelf life field in po or what will its impact,while shelf life is only provide the impact to GR.
3.In GR,its mandatory to put the date in the field "Date of Manufacture" or we can get it any other ways excluding batch.
4.In GR there are a field "Shelf Life Exp. Date" ,we can get through Date of Manufacture (from gr) + Total Shelf Life (from Material Master) here again then whats the use of "Min. rem. shelf life" field shows in Material master and PO.

Hi Himanshu,
I mean if a goods are recived under the expiration date and min shelf life is also ok.
First of all no business will allow to receive already expired date into the premises.
but goods are issue at that time when date has been expired,so how this scenario is run/maintained.
At this instance system will throw an error while Goods issue " Goods expired , kindly check expiry date".
Hope this helps.
Regards
Utsav

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